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TNA Champion EC3 and challenger Drew Galloway are Bound for Glory

Drew GallowayBound for Glory is Total Nonstop Action Wrestling‘s biggest pay-per-view of the year, and the TNA World Heavyweight Championship is the company’s grandest prize. Taking place at Cabarrus Arena in Concord, N.C. Oct. 4, this year’s Bound for Glory is headlined by Ethan Carter III defending his Championship against Drew Galloway. Wrestling with Pop Culture recently got to take part in a conference call with Carter and Galloway, prior to last Wednesday’s airing of Impact Wrestling, where it was revealed that Matt Hardy will also be involved in the match and Jeff Hardy will be the special guest referee. As both competitors prepare for what could become the biggest match of their careers, here are highlights from that call.

Bound for Glory is the biggest show of the year for TNA and the spotlight will be on each of you to set the stage going into 2016. If you’re able to get people talking about the wrestling in the ring as opposed to the extraneous stuff outside of your control, it could be a positive thing for TNA moving forward. What kind of pressure does that put on each of you personally and professionally? Is it pressure you welcome?

Carter: Well, seeing as I am the World Heavyweight Champion, I feel no pressure because I am completely confident in my abilities and the abilities of my opponent to deliver a match for the ages. It’s our opportunity. It’s our company now and we’re at the forefront. We’re the guys that want it the most and the guys that are going to do it the best. I feel nothing but confidence.

Galloway: That was a heck of an answer from the champ, but I pretty much feel exactly the same. You’ve got a couple of guys that love this business. When I was gone from WWE, I ran out of the gates on the independent scene, made my way to TNA and was given an opportunity. That’s what we want. We don’t feel pressure, we feel opportunity. Trust me, we’ll both deliver. We’re excited about it and fired up. This is the match of our lifetime and it’s a big match for TNA.

One of Carter’s first title defenses after winning the title from Kurt Angle was against Galloway. What have you learned about each other as opponents and how to plan on being victorious on Sunday.

Galloway: What I learned in my first opportunity at the World title, as well as one of EC3’s first defenses, is that not only is he a complete entertainer, but in the ring he can get it done as well. You don’t know what somebody can truly do in the ring until you get in there with them. You can watch, you can assume and you can guess, especially if you’re a performer yourself. But until you’re in the ring with somebody, you don’t know what somebody can bring. He can bring it just as well in the ring as he can outside the ring.

EC3 vs. Drew GallowayComing into this match, I’ve been training hard. For the past couple of weeks I’ve been in Australia, the U.K., darting all over the place having some hard-hitting matches and it’s all in preparation for the biggest match of my life. I’m coming in ready and I know he’s coming in ready. We guarantee one hell of a fight, never mind a wrestling match.

Carter: I’ve been working really hard myself preparing for this match. I’ve been taking a lot of naps, getting a lot of massages and just focusing on keeping my body in shape. As far as the hard-hitting matches, maybe not so much across the world like Drew’s doing, but that’s because I don’t need to do that. I am the World Heavyweight Champion. Last time I faced Drew Galloway, I’ll be honest, I caught a break with the interference of Eli Drake. But this is a different story, this is a different show. This is Bound for Glory and this is the biggest match of the year for TNA and there will be no shenanigans of that nature. This will be hard hitting, this will be an epic contest and I always deliver when the lights are the brightest.

Do you expect Sunday’s match to be a mat classic, an all-out brawl or maybe a little bit of both?

Carter: I see it being both. I can see us feeling each other out and a mat classic developing. I can see the over aggressiveness in a mistake-prone Drew Galloway trying to take advantage by making it a brawl. I can see myself retaining the title with one of my many finishers, whether it’s the one percenter, the schoolboy or the sunset flip.

Galloway: After 30 years of aggression, 15 years as a wrestler, I think forward is the right direction for my aggression. I can predict we’re going to go out there and give you a little bit of everything, all the best parts of professional wrestling. There’s going to be a little bit of comedy, there’s going to be aggression, there’s going to be some big near falls and there’s going to be a big finish. I guarantee it’s going to incorporate every single thing everybody loves about professional wrestling. We’re going all out and we’re leaving it all out there. Expect some very bad bumps, as well.

Carter: You’re hard pressed in this industry to find a more aggressive guy than Drew. It’s going to be physical and I’m prepared for it. I’m Teflon, I’m indestructible, I’m unpinnable, unbreakable, unbeatable, undefeated, undisputed. So, either way – mat classic, all-out fight – it’s going to be great.

Was there a feeling of vindication when you won the World Heavyweight Championship and received such a positive response when that show aired?

Carter: There was an immediate sense of vindication. But that sense of vindication immediately left me because I knew that now the hard work begins. Being chased is harder than the chase. Yes, there was vindication. But I could only rest on that success for a short time before I moved on to the next thing, and that’s becoming the greatest TNA Champion of all time.

TNA has been in a rebuilding period since you came to the company. What has that experience been like for you?

Drew GallowayGalloway: I had no goals of being back on American television so quickly. I had been gone from WWE for six or seven months and was really making a name for myself on the underground. I was happy and didn’t want to be back on TV just yet. Then I spoke with Big [John Gaburick, executive vice president of creative & talent relations] and he made it clear to me they were going in a different direction and going to give some younger guys an opportunity to rebuild and we want you to be part of that. I knew it was a good bunch of guys and when I came in and saw how dedicated, how passionate and how good everybody was, I knew there was no way this was not going to work. It was a great environment, a great television show, the backstage staff was great, the bosses were great, the boys were amazing and everybody gets it done in the ring. To be the focal point of that with EC3, somebody I’ve known for so many years, is a very cool thing to be a part of.

Earlier this year you said you wanted to emulate Ric Flair and be a traveling champion. Have you discussed with Dixie taking that title and touring across the world?

Galloway: I’ve not discussed it with management, but I’ve certainly discussed it with myself over the past year now. I’ve always had this clear plan in my head of being a professional wrestler who is able to travel the world, wrestle as myself, talk as myself. I’ve been able to do it everywhere, especially in TNA. I’ve had the opportunity to compete for all these titles and have been fortunate enough to win the ICW title, the SWA title, the Danish title, the Australian title, the Evolve title, the Dragon Gate title… But the ultimate goal has been the TNA title and my goal is to be the first traveling champion since Ric Flair. If I’m able to win that TNA title and take it across the world, I’m pretty sure that’s as close as it’s going to come to emulating somebody like Flair.

Carter: What Drew is saying is good in theory, but it’s also something I’m currently doing as the TNA World Heavyweight Champion. I don’t know if people realize I am traveling to all sorts of illustrious places worldwide like Boise, Idaho, Detroit, Michigan and Omaha, Nebraska. I’m defending the World title there against some of the best competition those local podunk promotions have. I’m also a traveling World Champion.

Speaking of Ric Flair, Bound for Glory is being held in what is commonly known to wrestling fans as Flair Country. What role do you think the location and audience will play in your match, being that Charlotte is so rich in wrestling history?

Galloway: There are a few places in America with rich wrestling history and Charlotte is one of them. Everybody remembers, or for the younger kids watching today their parents and grandparents are telling them, that they appreciate wrestling. This is going to be a show. Don’t expect much talking, don’t expect many segments being dragged out, just expect 100 percent wrestling, especially from our match. This is a place that expects the best you can possibly give in the ring, the highest quality. And we’re going to give them every single possible thing we can give.

Carter: Being in Flair Country, I’ll be throwing a lot of chops, I’ll be poking a lot of eyes, I’ll be raking a lot of backs and I guaran-damn-tee I’ll go to that top rope and attempt a double ax handle. But I will not get thrown off. I will hit it because I am the TNA World Heavyweight Champion and I always hit my double ax handle.

Galloway: You just told me your entire offense. Not very smart, Champ.

Looking past Bound for Glory, TNA has a few shows in Louisianna and Mississippi as part of the Hardcore Halloween Tour in late October and early November. Then you’re off to the United Kingdom for the Maximum Impact events in January. Given TNA’s popularity in the U.K., and the fact that these events will be your first opportunity to defend the TNA title outside the United States, what will it mean to you to be representing the company as the Champion at these shows?

Ethan Carter IIICarter: First of all, thanks for the plug for the Hardcore Halloween Tour. That is going to be a great series of live events that only TNA Impact Wrestling can bring to you live. As far as going to England as the World Heavyweight Champion, that is fully my intention to represent this brand globally and go to one of our hottest markets as the Champion. Last year was interesting because not only did I become the megastar that I am in that standout performance against Rockstar Spud, but Drew Galloway also debuted. Now here we are at Bound for Glory getting ready to lock horns and do battle to see who truly wants it the most. When we go over to England, I fully intend on still being the TNA World Heavyweight Champion and I fully intend on never losing the TNA World Heavyweight Championship.

Galloway: It is coming up on a year in the making and both of us have made some huge strides. That’s my biggest goal is for Drew Galloway to come home as the Champion. The U.K. is my home market and one of our strongest markets, and it’s the wildest and best wrestling fans. I travel the world and see all the different scenes and the U.K. is on fire right now. Everybody always asks me, “What is it about the U.K. that makes [the fans] different?” I always explain to them that it’s like a soccer crowd. If you’ve ever been to a professional American sport, somebody will stand up and shout something and people will give him a look of disgust. In soccer back home, if you’re not standing up and shouting something you’re getting your ass kicked. You’ve got to be loud and crazy, making noise the entire show, doing chants the entire show, getting into and being passionate. That’s the kind of fans we’ve got coming to these shows. If I come home the Champion in front of all these wild, crazy maniacs it will be the greatest thing ever. If I don’t come home the Champion in front of these wild, crazy maniacs, they may just bottle me anyway.

Carter: I’m actually fearing my life going back now. Thank you for that, Drew.

Both of you had careers in WWE and have had bigger careers in TNA. How do you feel you’ve grown as wrestlers since coming to TNA?

Carter: Being a wrestler, going through the system, striving, trying, knocking on different doors, calling different people, trying to make things happen and it never really works out – when I came over to TNA, it all kind of came into place. They believed in my talents and let me develop as a character. I couldn’t be happier because without that forum, I’d just be a forgotten casualty in the wrestling business. Now I’m the World Heavyweight Champion and the hottest act going today.

Galloway: I’ve been wrestling since I was 15. I was just finishing university when I got signed to come to America. I honestly didn’t have a plan. I had a criminology degree and would have probably started a regular job. But I’ve never had a regular job. I’ve always been a wrestler. Luckily I got signed and came to America when I had just turned 22. I was right on TV, grew up here, developed here, learned the American style (it’s a very different style over in Europe) and grew as a person and as a wrestler. When I got the opportunities to showcase what I could do, perhaps I wasn’t so ready when I was younger. Thankfully, once I was away from WWE – they’re the reason I was able to get booked everywhere, I’ll never knock WWE or anybody there – it was up to me to reinvent myself because so many guys leave the company, like EC3 mentioned, and they’re forgotten about. We’re just not like that, we’re not built like everybody else. We’re the kind of guys that go out and say, “Screw that!” We’re going to kick the doors down, we’re going to make people notice us because we believe in ourselves, we believe in our talents, we’ve been taught the right way, learned the right way, we’ve listened and we’ve pushed past because of ourselves. Thankfully TNA has given us the platform to show the world what we’re both capable of.

Ethan, you debuted at Bound for Glory two years ago. Drew, you debuted in Glasgow on the U.K. tour earlier this year. How does it feel to be headlining TNA’s biggest show of the year within such a short timeframe?

Carter: For me, two years since my debut, this is exactly where I expected myself to be. As I said earlier, I feel a sense of vindication. But I also feel a sense of responsibility to deliver. I’ve been given this opportunity and I intend to live up to it every time I step into the ring. I intend to work the hardest, always deliver, be awesome, be EC3, be the Champ.

Galloway: For myself, it was a big deal for me to wrestle. That’s what was going to make me happy coming off the run I had. All I wanted to do was wrestle. I had the opportunity to be Drew Galloway – I would never have come in under any funny name or anything like that. I was always going to be Drew Galloway no matter where I go. If you let me wrestle and be myself, I don’t care where I am on the show. Inevitably, you want to work your way up. If what you’re doing is getting people’s attention and you know you are deserving of the opportunity, that’s very cool for me. This is my life’s work and all I want to do is be a professional wrestler. Getting this opportunity to do what I love…

Carter: This World Heavyweight title is my life’s work and I just want to commend Drew, before I defeat him. It’s outstanding what can happen when a talent is allowed to be himself and is given an opportunity to get by on his own merits and succeed. It’s commendable for Drew to come over here and do just that.

Kurt Angle and EC3 discuss Slammiversary and “Bell to Bell” title match

SlammiversaryTotal Nonstop Action Wrestling celebrates it’s 13th anniversary with its Slammiversary pay-per-view tonight, June 28, beginning at 8 p.m. EST. Aside from the buzz surrounding Jeff Jarrett’s return to the company last Wednesday, and the first King of the Mountain match at Slammiversary in six years, however, a majority of the TNA talk is about the World Heavyweight Championship match between Kurt Angle and Ethan Carter III that will air on Impact Wrestling: Bell to Bell on July 1. Despite the fact that Angle is featured on the Slammiversary poster with the championship belt over his shoulder, there is no advertised match for Angle or the title at Slammiversary. And considering that the Bell to Bell title match was recorded prior to Slammiversary, it’s probably better not to spoil the outcome by having Angle wrestle on the PPV (though I don’t understand why the title match wasn’t the main event of Slammiversary in the first place). All that aside, Wrestling with Pop Culture took part in a TNA conference call with Angle and EC3 prior to Slammiversary and the Bell to Bell taping. During this call, the two combatants discussed their year-plus rivalry, their mutual respect for one another and other topics.

Slammiversary is known as an anniversary looking back. What is one moment you look back on and always remember? What are some things you expect in the next couple of months for TNA?

Ethan Carter IIIAngle: I’ve always enjoyed Slammiversary. It’s one of our biggest pay-per-views of the year. I can’t remember one in particular that I truly remember, but I’ve had some incredible matches at this pay-per-view.

Carter: If I could just ask for a moment of silence for the member of my barber shop quintet that was Angle slammed by Mr. Angle and had his back evaporated into dust.

Thank you very much. Slammiversary is a mecca of our business and a standard we all adhere to. My personal favorite Slammiversary moment would probably be my very first Slammiversary where I won a Texas death match against Bully Ray, handing him a solid defeat after months and months of antagonizing my friends and my family. Justice was served that night. As far as this Slammiversary, I’m very much looking forward to continuing to be undefeated at Slammiversary and in general.

To varying degrees and under very different circumstances, you’ve both had as much success, or more in Ethan’s Case, in WWE as you’ve had in TNA. What do each of you attribute that to?

Kurt AngleAngle: I had a tremendous career in WWE. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: I’ve had an even better career in TNA. I really believe that has a lot to do with the talent I’ve gotten to wrestle; AJ Styles, Samoa Joe, Sting, Jeff Jarrett, Bobby Roode, Bobby Lashley. There are so many great athletes that I probably would not have wrestled if I had stayed in WWE. I was in my seventh year when I started in TNA and I think that’s when the lightbulb went off in my head and I just had better matches and a better career. That’s hard for me to say because I had a pretty damn good career in WWE. I just felt like I meshed with the talent a lot better in TNA. They had some tremendous talent when I got here and they continue to have improved talent with the likes of EC3, who I consider one of the best wrestlers today. He’s undefeated, he’s shown that he can hang with the big boys and I feel that someday he will be a champion. I just don’t think it’s going to be anytime soon.

Carter: I happen to wholeheartedly agree with just about every word that came out of Mr. Angle’s mouth, except for the fact that I won’t be a champion very soon. We’ll see about that at Bell to Bell on July 1. If you watched last week on Impact, the litany of names that Kurt Angle has defeated stemming from both WWE and Impact. He says I’m one of the best wrestlers going today. Well, he’s the best wrestler ever and his resume speaks for that. Whether it was with WWE or TNA, like he said, he has improved with time. As far as for myself, it’s a totally different scenario where one place didn’t give me as much of an opportunity as the other place. And you’re seeing the result of that now.

This match has been building up for almost two years. How much are you guys looking forward to facing each other one-on-one at Bell to Bell?

Angle: I think it’s built tremendously well. When I came back from my knee surgery, I never expected to win the title so suddenly. Watching EC3 go through the talent, knocking every person down and defeating them, I knew eventually he was going to be the guy for me to beat. We did have a match before, I had a knee injury at the time and EC3 did the right thing and took advantage of it. That’s the reason I had knee surgery. But now I’m 100 percent healthy. If it had occurred any sooner or any later, I don’t think it would have been the right time. This is the right time and I believe that EC3 and I can have the match of the year. We’re going to put on a great performance and we’re going to see who the best man is July 1 at Bell to Bell.

Ethan Carter IIICarter: Once again, I can’t help but agree with Kurt Angle. Spoken like a true poet. Like he said, the buildup has been phenomenal. I think it’s a rare occurrence in this industry to have the ability to let something naturally build and progress over enough time where people are really invested in it. I’m pretty fortunate and excited to be in this moment with Kurt. He did mention that we wrestled prior and I did take out his knee and I’ll tell you what, I can eat a little bit of humble pie here – Kurt Angle kicked my ass that entire match. I’m lucky to have escaped with the victory, if it wasn’t for circumstances like his knee tearing in the middle of the match. That was a year ago, though. I’m a year better, a year stronger, a year wiser, a year more handsome and I’m ready for this moment that will culminate July 1 at Bell to Bell.

Rumor has it that Destination America fully supports Kurt Angle as the Champion. EC3 has started this all-american political campaign. Is that a way for you to try and one up Kurt Angle and get Destination Behind you as Champion?

Kurt AngleAngle: Yeah, Destination America has done a tremendous job of supporting me as the Champion. I’m sure it has a lot to do with the red, white and blue, being an Olympic gold medalist and a former 12-time World Heavyweight Champion. I knew that they wanted me to become the Champion and carry the company when we started with Destination America. That made me feel really good. It’s a proud moment when a network wants to build around you. Then EC3 started this campaign and did a tremendous job with his campaign. I remember last year talking to the head of creative and saying, “We’re going to have to put the title on this kid sometime soon.” The time is coming. Whether or not it happens July 1, EC3 will eventually be the World Champion because he is that good. I think that Destination America will fully support EC3 when the day comes that he does become Champion. What I’m hoping is that he doesn’t become Champion while I’m the World Heavyweight Champion. I’d like to put him under the notch in my belt as one of the guys that I’ve beaten. He’s a great competitor and I’m looking forward to the match. As long as he stays healthy, he has a lot of potential to be one of the best wrestlers today and a future legend.

Carter: The way I look at it is if I was a television company and I was fantasy booking a wrestling show and I was about America, my number one draft pick would be the only Olympic gold medalist in wrestling history, Kurt Angle. So, I fully understand that burden to carry the company, to be the lead-off man, the guy to get us on base, get us started, hit a home run, even – to really make us noticed, not only to America, but to the world. So, you’ve got Kurt Angle, the ultimate American, the World Champion. As far as my political campaign, sometimes to get to the ring you need to maneuver a little bit. Let’s not be remiss and think that politics do not exist in wrestling. Wrestling is politics. Every top level guy has played politics at one point in his career. Despite the fact that I remain undefeated, unpinned and unsubmitted, I was never granted a title shot. So, I took a look at what the greats, like Kurt, have done. The campaign was a political move, yes, to put my name out there as someone who could carry the company to the future, and maybe even end Kurt Angle’s title reign.

Perhaps Kurt Angle’s biggest TNA rivalry was with Samoa Joe. What are your thoughts on his recent signing with WWE and appearance on NXT?

Angle: The sky’s the limit for Samoa Joe. I don’t think he’s going to stop in NXT. I really think he’s going to end up on the main roster. He has been a talent that, since the day I met him, I knew he could shine more than any other wrestler I know. He’s a tremendous in-ring performer, he can cut a promo just as good as, if not better than, anybody, except for maybe EC3. But I can tell you Samoa Joe really deserves this. If he didn’t want to continue his career in TNA, I’m happy he’s doing it in WWE. I really believe the sky’s the limit for him. I think he’s going to do tremendous things.

Slammiversary is always when the next TNA Hall of Famer is announced. Who would you like to see go into the TNA Hall of Fame next?

Angle: That’s tough. There are so many TNA originals that deserve it. We’ve had guys be inducted that have had success in other companies before they came to TNA: Sting, myself, Team 3D. It would be really nice to see somebody that was in TNA, that stayed in TNA for 10-12 years. I really wouldn’t doubt if it was somebody like AJ Styles, Samoa Joe, guys like that that started from the beginning. There are guys that are still going strong that I know they’d love to induct, but they’re not even close to being retired. It’s kind of hard to pick some of these talents. It’s really tough to say. What I’d really like to see is a guy who was involved with the company from the get-go be inducted.

Ethan Carter IIICarter: Kurt mentioned names like Samoa Joe and AJ Styles and I think we’ll see them there in the future. I think this year a TNA original should be rewarded. I think a guy like Abyss deserves to be in the Hall of Fame.

Pay-per-views are traditionally where the more important matches take place. But with you guys having the World Championship match on July 1 and Slammiversary being this weekend, that’s not necessarily the case any more. What’s your opinion of the importance of pay-per-view versus television in 2015?

Angle: The way everything is structured with our company, it’s hard to connect pay-per-views with TV because we are taping TVs. What we are trying to do is have the best possible matches we can at the pay-per-views. Whether they’re storyline related or not, we’re trying to put in the best lineup to get the best possible match scenarios as we can. Fans who order the pay-per-view are going to get five-star matches. Right now, I know we’re not able to cohesively make the TVs and pay-per-views make sense. But what we are trying to do and what we are accomplishing is having the best possible matches we can for the fans at Slammiversary and the other pay-per-views.

Carter: Man, Kurt is smart. The way he said it is entirely true. This match has a build-to-a-pay-per-view feel, and I know some fans are upset that it didn’t take place on the pay-per-view. But we can only act in the circumstances we have and with us filming TV in advance I think it would be a disrespect to the fans to act like that didn’t happen, then have the pay-per-view. So I think you’re damned if you do and you’re damned if you don’t. I know that at Slammiversay everybody in that locker room, regardless if it’s storyline conducive or if it’s just to have a great match, is going to bust their ass and give you every cent-worth of what you pay for it. We’re also in a different time in the business where the game has changed quite a bit, especially with the [WWE] Network coming on. We have to adapt and find a way to make it all work out. What will work out for everybody’s favor is that Slammiversary is going to be off the charts. Then July 1, Bell to Bell, Kurt Angle vs. EC3 is also going to be off the charts. And free on television. You’re welcome, world.

Kurt, you’ve said that this match at Bell to Bell could be a mat classic. How much pressure do you put yourself under to deliver one of those Angle classics that the fans expect each time you step into the ring? EC3 how much pressure do you feel you’re going to be under as you go in to win your first TNA World Heavyweight Championship?

Kurt Angle/Ethan Carter IIIAngle: I put quite a bit of pressure on myself, but I love it. I love going out there and having the best match of the night to steal the show. It’s challenging, especially at my age, 46. I’m still able to do it and I feel very blessed. If the match against EC3 isn’t good, then I can blame it on him. I really am looking forward to it. I really believe that we can have the match of the year. That’s hard for me to say with the matches I’ve had this year with Bobby Lashley, Austin Aries, Eric Young and Bobby Roode. But I really believe that EC3 and Kurt Angle is going to be the match of the year. Am I putting pressure on myself? Yeah. Am I putting pressure on EC3? Yes I am. But I really believe we will have the match of the year and it’s going to happen July 1.

Carter: The pressure is there because I’m going to be sharing the ring with a guy who has had great matches with everyone. So if our match isn’t good, then yes, he can blame it one me. But it will be awesome, I assure you. It will be a classic because one interesting thing about myself and TNA thus far, being here for two years and running through the roster unpinned, unsubmitted, is I have yet to really even show you what I can do. The character’s been genuine, the character’s been able to get by on things that are more than just in ring so much so that what I actually do in the ring is kind of shrouded in a little bit of mystery. And that’s what makes it so exciting because I know what I can do, I know what Kurt can do, I’ve had this match with Kurt Angle in my head for 13 years now, since I first saw him in WWE. I’ve had this match in my head 1,000 different times, 1,000 different ways with 1,000 different outcomes. Yes, there’s pressure as there damn well should be because if you can’t handle the pressure, get the hell out of the kitchen. I don’t think that’s a saying, but it might as well be. The pressure is good. I’m ready for the pressure. I am so thrilled and excited to eat this pressure, chew it up, digest it, regurgitate it, spit it out, get it all out there and show you exactly who I am.

What are your final thoughts on your upcoming World Heavyweight Championship?

Angle: At this point in my career, I consider myself an underdog every time I go in and wrestle. When you’re in the latter part of your career and you lose half a step from where you were before, you learn to be humble, you realize you’re fighting from underneath. I like that. I like being the underdog. I’ve always been the underdog my whole life. Knowing that EC3 is on top of his game and he is undefeated, most people would pick EC3 to win this match because he is in the prime of his career. He has been primed for this match, he’s been waiting for this match and this is his night. Whether he wins or loses, this is his night. This is his first World Heavyweight title shot. What I can do is give everything I have. As long as I give everything I have, I know I can win. Will I win? I can’t guarantee it. But I’m confident I will. I know against EC3, it’s going to be an incredible match. I’m looking forward to being the underdog, even though I’m the champion. And I’m looking forward to defeating EC3 and giving him his first loss. I think that would be retribution for what he did to me last year.

Ethan Carter IIICarter: There’s a saying, “You ain’t as good as you once was, but you’re as good as you’ll ever be.” When you look at a guy like Kurt Angle, that’s complete horse shit because he is at the top of his game. He is still the very best, he is the man and how do I, EC3, prepare for a match with a guy like Kurt Angle? Do I train my ass of? Yes. Do I study tape? Yes. Do I put myself in the situation as many times as I can mentally? Yes. But none of that is going to matter because until we’re actually in the ring we’re not going to know what’s going to happen. The resume this man has is so incredible and so stout. Me, being a newcomer, as somebody who’s always seen from the outside and never really been able to experience it fully, the only thing I can say is that the one thing that separates me from a lot of guys in this industry, maybe in this world, is that it’s not over until I win. I do not accept defeat at any time, any juncture, any moment. It is not over until I win. At Bell to Bell, July 1, Destination America, 9 p.m., it will not be over until I win.