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The Melvins take on Unsane in a “Cage Match”? Well, sort of

Since the early ’80s, the Melvins have been sludging through the metal underworld with monstrous riffs almost as big as front man Buzz Osborne’s signature afro. Though the band had some major label success in the ’90s (thanks mostly to its association with Nirvana), these guys

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have never been known for taking a traditional approach to music. Released for free through Scion A/V, the recent EP The Bulls & the Bees shows the band being just as heavy and weird as always, even while being distributed by the corporate arm of a major car company. As the Melvins hit the road with Unsane tonight for a week-and-a-half United States tour, Osborne talks to Wrestling with Pop Culture about things that may or may not happen on this tour.

The Melvins recently released The Bulls & the Bees EP for free through Scion A/V. Did working with a car company as opposed to a record label affect the creative process at all?

The main difference is they’re not selling it. So it doesn’t go to stores or anything. It’s just free. Generally speaking, you don’t put out records unless you’re planning on selling them, and no one’s going to underwrite what you’re doing unless they’re going to get their money back. Usually record labels are a gamble, so this was certainly different than that. There’s no profit motivation on their end other than raising awareness of their car company. Whether that translates into auto sales remains to be seen.

For the band it could possibly expose you to people who may not have previously listened to you.

Heavy on the expose. We love to expose ourselves. How could you not? All we do is expose ourselves … constantly.

I’ve been listening to you guys since the mid ’90s, so I’ve been exposed to you guys a few times in concert.

Oh, you mean musically.

Yeah. I haven’t seen anything else. Have you been in Playgirl or anything?

Not me. No one needs to see that. Are you kidding? Surely you jest. We’ll just leave it at that. The unknown’s a lot of times better than the known.

You also have another album coming out in June called Freak Puke with a slightly scaled-down version of the Melvins called Melvins Lite. What can you say about that record so far? Will you be playing some of the new stuff on this tour?

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Melvins Lite is essentially us playing with Trevor Dunn, who plays a standup bass. Until people hear the stuff, they’re having a little bit of trouble getting their head around that. I don’t know why. They should, at this point, certainly expect us to do something a little weird. We always have. It sounds different sonically, but you can still tell it’s us. I got this idea last year. We did five shows with Trevor playing regular Melvins songs. But with all of our records and all of our songs, or any song in general – there’s really not a song in the world we couldn’t do a cover of, but that doesn’t mean we’d play it exactly the same – we’ve always moved forward with how it has to work in order for us to make it work. So I was never too worried about any of that kind of thing. It’s different, but it’s kind of an extension of what we’re doing already. We’re certainly not going to stop playing with the Big Business guys by no means. I think we’re going to play one song off this record [on this tour]. With us and the Big Business guys, we could play everything off this record. It might be a little different than it sounds with standup bass, but with a standup bass you could play every Melvins song. No problem. Essentially it’s still a bass. The same notes are on it, I guess. “I guess” is always a good answer for everything, don’t you think?

I guess.

Seems reasonable.

This tour kicks off tonight and you’re touring with another great underground band, Unsane. What a great pairing. Are there any plans for the two bands to collaborate or do anything odd on this tour?

We put out a 7-inch on Amphetamine Reptile with us covering an Unsane song and them covering one of our songs. That’s just out and we’re actually selling those on the tour. Cage Match, we called it.

Oh, so you’ll be in a cage. Will you be wearing luchador masks and things like that?

Yeah, totally. We’re going to kick their asses. It will be a severe beating. A series of beatings followed by a series of beatings. How about that?

I look forward to that. Do you need a referee or anything?

God, no. Are you kidding? For what?

Is it an unsanctioned free-for-all?

Well, if it’s a free-for-all it should be unsanctioned. Don’t you think? Unbridled mayhem is what we’re looking for.

Is that the name of the tour?

Why not? That sounds like a good tour. The Unbridled Mayhem tour.

So rather than having one band open for the other band, will you all be out there in cage at the same time?

Oh, yeah. Totally. We’re bringing a bunch of things like that and people pay extra at the door if they actually want us to cut each other up and see blood. If you want blood, you’ve got to pay more.

Are fans encouraged to bring weapons?

Absolutely not. It’s the same as a wrestling match. You’re not encouraged to bring weapons there. They want to see us inflict violence on each other. Let us do the talking. I am not encouraging people to bring weapons of any kind. I’m discouraging it.

Where does the music fit into all this?

Music? That’s the one thing we forgot about. I don’t know what we’re going to do. What is it the Meat Puppets say? “Who needs action when you’ve got words?”

I’m looking forward to the DVD release from this tour.

Oh, we should do that. That would be great. That’s a good idea. Don’t patent that before we get a chance to.

Oh, no. I’m expecting you guys to do it.

You’re a gracious man.

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The Melvins and Unsane have influenced a number of bands over the years, ranging from Nirvana to Mastodon. You’ve also toured with some of those bands. What is like to see a band like Mastodon, who are still growing in the metal world, acknowledging the Melvins as an influence?

It doesn’t hurt. We’re always very gracious receivers of any kind of admiration. As well we should be. That’s all we do is sit back and let people admire us. It’s great. I’m glad bands are influenced by our band. It’s nice. Let’s just hope Mastodon doesn’t end up the way Nirvana ended up. That was a worst case scenario.

I think they’ve probably gotten past anything like that in their career.

I’ll take your word for it.

Oddly enough, Gabe Sapolsky from Dragon Gate USA was a guest on the March 28 edition of Ringside Rap and he used the comparison between the Melvins and Justin Bieber as an analogy between his wrestling promotion and more mainstream wrestling shows.

Wow. The difference between us and Bieber is we’ve written thousands of songs and play to three people and he hasn’t even written three songs and plays to thousands of people.

I’d say that’s a pretty accurate comparison.

Honestly, I’ve never heard a moment of his music. I have no idea what it sounds like. I can probably guess, but I honestly have no clue. He seems like a Logan’s Run-style performer, which means they die when they hit 30.

He still has a few years before he hits 30, I think.

As long as you believe what they tell you. Hopefully he’ll have it all worked out by then and won’t do anything stupid with his money. He should call me. I can tell him what to do. I’d be more than happy to tell him what to do.

“Mean” Gene Okerlund still uses his quick wit in WWE

During the ’80s and ’90s, “Mean” Gene Okerlund‘s distinct voice and dry sense of humor were almost as important to wrestling as what went on inside the ring. From his backstage interviews with the likes of Hulk Hogan, “Ravishing” Rick Rude and “Macho Man” Randy Savage to his ringside commentary that was just as colorful as his longtime partner Jesse “The Body” Ventura‘s attire, Mean Gene was a fixture in the World Wrestling Federation of the ’80s and

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World Championship Wrestling of the ’90s. Often referring to his interviewees and other celebrities as his “close personal friends,” Okerlund was at least partially responsible for making wrestling a mainstream success during those decades. A member of the 2006 class of the WWE Hall of Fame, Okerlund is still seen on WWE TV on occasion, most notably on WWE Classics On Demand. In keeping with the “Blast from the Past” theme of this week’s Super SmackDown Live, here’s a Wrestling with Pop Culture interview with Okerlund from this year’s WrestleMania Axxess. And in true Mean Gene fashion, the interview begins with him asking me, “These are only going to be personal questions, right?”

If you want them to be. We are close personal friends after all.

Of course!

Well, I won’t get too personal. But as one of the most influential interviewers and commentators in WWE history, what do you think some of today’s commentators could do to connect with the wrestlers and fans the way you did?

If they do what I did, I took a whole bunch of people – I took Bob Costas, Henny Youngman and maybe a snake oil salesman – and tried to combine the three to develop my own style. I think that’s what these guys that are coming up in the broadcasting end of WWE need to do is create their own characters.

Do you still have your fast food chain, Mean Gene’s Burgers, out west?

I do. As a matter of fact, we stopped at a couple of them recently when we were in Palm Springs, California. But they’re mostly in military installations worldwide.

Do you think we’ll ever see those throughout the rest of the country?

It’s a lot of work. The product’s good and it’s very healthy, it’s trans fat-free and more nutritional because of the way it’s cooked.

Aside from fast food and appearing at WrestleMania Axxess, what’s your role with WWE these days?

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I spend six or eight days a month up in Stamford, Connecticut and other assorted places where I do mostly the WWE 24/7 and Classics On Demand.

With the upcoming WWE Network, do you think we might be seeing more of you soon?

That’s pretty tough to tell at this juncture. I wouldn’t mind it, but I’m not going to travel 250 days a year either. Unless I get a chance to work with the divas. That’s a whole new ball game. Back in the day, I got to work with Mae Young and Moolah.

You also had Miss Elizabeth.

Miss Elizabeth was always taken. But she was a great gal and a great talent. I don’t know if she was ever appreciated as much as she should have been. Big loss for all of us.

Absolutely. Well, I appreciate your time today.

OK. Now which one of you guys pays me?

The guy with the WWE logo on his shirt.

Do we have a problem?

New Zealand hit comedy “Boy” comes to U.S. theaters

Though he is likely best known to United States audiences for his work on Flight of the Conchords, Taika Waititi is becoming a comic legend in his native New Zealand. Following the success of his 2007 romantic comedy Eagle vs Shark, Waititi had even more success with Boy, a nostalgic childhood comedy that has won pretty much every award in New Zealand. As the most celebrated and successful local film in New Zealand history, Boy has finally reached American audiences, opening in more and more theaters each week.

Set in 1984, Boy is about an 11-year-old boy named Boy (James Rolleston), who balances the responsibility of taking care of his peers while applying lingering childlike fantasies onto the real world. His obsessions with pop cultural trends of the time such as Michael Jackson‘s Thriller and E.T., coupled with his innocent stories about his estranged father Alamein (played by Waititi) being a war hero and his brother’s magical powers, make for some comical moments. Though Boy is initially delighted when his father randomly returns, it quickly becomes apparent that Alamein is as deluded about his own heroism as Boy is. While this situation would normally be a sad one, the absurdity of it all is very comical in Boy.

As the film opens in more U.S. cities today, Wititi takes a moment to talk to Wrestling with Pop Culture about Boy‘s influences and success.

Boy deals a lot with how a child’s imagination is projected onto reality. As a result, many situations that might be sad and depressing become absurdly comical.

Yeah. One of the hardest things with this type of film is trying to find a balance between the drama and the comedy. New Zealand is known more for films that are darker in content. With a lot of the films we’ve made before, in a film like this one of the kids would be dead by the end. We always tend to hone in on the more depressing elements of kids looking after themselves and parent/child relationships.

I wanted to kind of move away from that and make an entertaining film that has light moments. And those light moments, I think, really shine out against the dark moments. The fantasy thing was very important to me with the three Boy characters: Boy, Rocky and the dad. They’re all trying to deal with what’s going on in their world surrounding the death of this woman and all of them are projecting fantasy onto reality to try and deal with what happened, to justify what happened, to cope with the feeling of abandonment or just to move away from the guilt. Rocky’s fantasies manifest in the drawings and the very simple ways he sees what’s going on in the real world. Boy is a little bit more advanced, so he has live-action cutaways and flashbacks, some of them are real, some are not, so it’s a blur. Alamein’s fantasies show themselves in the real world and the physical way he presents himself – changing his hair and his jacket, the way he looks, changing his name. He’s constantly trying to remove himself from who he really is, to absolve himself in some sort of way.

I like his throne with the antlers strategically placed directly behind his head so they appear to be coming out of his head.

Boy (James Rolleston) aspires to be like his father.

Yeah, exactly. It’s like, “I’m going to be a king now.” It’s this lunatic loser way of elevating your status by surrounding yourself with very low status and weak people.

The story was inspired somewhat by your own childhood experiences and it was actually filmed in the house where you grew up.

Yeah. That was my house it was shot in and I went to that school, so I grew up with a lot of kids. There was a certain degree of freedom, in the ’80s especially, that you don’t see kids getting these days. These days people are organizing play dates for their kids and it’s very regimented and scripted: Wednesday, 2-4, you have a play date with Tommy. When I grew up it was like: Wednesday, bye bye, I don’t want to see  you until dark. It was a very different time and growing up there was a very cool upbringing, something I feel not many people really experience, especially not here. It’s a new thing to see on film.

There were gangs around us and there was dope and pot and stuff, but the actual conventions of the narrative were made up and draped against the backdrop of a very authentic setting.

Boy has a lot of responsibility amongst the other kids. Did he assume those responsibilities or were they assigned to him in some way? Was it a common thing in New Zealand at that time for one kid to assume leadership of a group of unsupervised kids?

Yeah, we used to look after each other. When I was probably, like, 6, my older cousin, who was probably 9 or 10, used to make my lunch for me in the mornings. All the kids would walk to school together and look after each other. Kids had a lot more responsibility for themselves. I think socially that makes you a little bit stronger because you learn how to deal with situations and you’re less scared of conflict.

You play Alamein, the father. Why did you choose to take on that role yourself?

I just thought he needed to be incredibly good looking.

I actually auditioned a lot of people and I did about six callbacks with actors that I wanted. The problem was, I was spending so much time trying to work with them to get this character right. I wanted to move away from how we are traditionally typecast in movies in New Zealand, which is like the Jake character in Once Were Warriors, who’s basically an alcoholic killer. There’s that kind of character, or there’s this sort of stoic warrior Dances with Wolves type of guy. There’s more to us than that. We have geeky, dorky guys who are essentially weaklings who pretend to be tough. You can have characters that have slightly more layers to them and that’s what I wanted. I wanted a degree of comedy in there as well.

Alamein (Taika Waititi) lives out one of his fantasies.

For me the most important factor in the film is the kids. The film is nothing without them, so I couldn’t be on set spending all my energy with an adult trying to work through problems. It was just easier for me to play him because I knew exactly what I wanted because the character’s based on a lot of guys that I knew. It just made sense for me to do it. My background’s comedy. I’ve done a lot of acting in the past and I wanted a certain amount of humor within the role, as well as some dramatic stuff. And being able to work with the kids directly in the scene was a huge benefit. I was in the scene directing them to their faces instead of being a voice from across the set. In the end, it made the job easier.

You mentioned your comedy background, which is probably what you’re best known for to many American audiences from your work on Flight of the Conchords. But you also have a background in visual art. How would you say that experience informed you as a director?

That’s what I was doing the longest until I started making films in 2004. My thing was painting and illustration and I still do illustration because it’s something I can do while traveling, since I travel quite a lot.

Composition-wise, the way I try and make things look, the art direction of having certain colors and certain things that I wanted within a frame, it certainly helps. I’ve also done a lot of photography, so that also plays into it. Really, film became the perfect medium for me because it was a mixture of all the things I was doing anyway. It allows me to address them all and be satisfied all in one project.

Boy was very successful in New Zealand. Now that it’s been opening in different cities around the U.S., what have the reactions been like here?

Fantastic. The reviews have been insanely great and the audiences have been fantastic. Because we’re doing self distribution, we’re doing roll-outs of ten new cities a week. In the next month, we’re opening in, like, another 40 cities. It’s really cool that the audiences get to see it, but it takes longer since we don’t have the budget of something like John Carter driving it. So we’re putting more effort into it with Q&As and stuff like that, and having physical presence with the film.

Speaking of big budget films, you were also in Green Lantern. What was that experience like in comparison with working on your own film?

Yeah. I played the best friend of the Green Lantern, who is this computer geek with glasses and stuff. It was weird. It wasn’t as much fun. Boy was filmed in a cool environment because I was in my hometown and it felt like a family affair. With Green Lantern it was like going to a new city. The set had hundreds and hundreds of people where our crew was, like, 40. There’s a certain disconnect within that kind of filmmaking. Not many people know each other. It was obviously fun to do the acting part of it, but at the end of the day I think anyone could have done that role. I’d rather do something a little more fun and a little more meaningful to me.

Boy. Written and directed by Taika Waititi. Starring James Rolleston, Te Aho Aho Eketone-Whitu and Taika Waititi. Not rated. www.boythefilm.com.

“The Booker” takes an inside look at Platinum Championship Wrestling’s beginnings

When the Platinum Championship Wrestling documentary The Booker screens at the Midtown Art Cinema at 7:15 tonight as part of the Atlanta Film Festival, it will be the world premiere of a movie that was four years in the making. In the film, director Michael Perkins of Beast OA Films and Studio 5 begins in 2008, when Stephen Platinum began his quest to make PCW an alternative to what passes for pro wrestling today. The movie concludes with 2010’s Sacred Ground: Chapter One, an event held at the Kennesaw State University Convocation Center and featuring some of wrestling’s top independent stars taking on PCW’s top talents. What’s most interesting, however, is the struggles that take place for Platinum and other PCW members as they try to make their dream a reality.

Though PCW still has a long way to go before becoming a viable alternative to mainstream wrestling, it has definitely established itself as one of the top promotions in Georgia, and one of the most active promotions in the country. Perkins and the PCW crew have plenty of reason to celebrate tonight, which is exactly what they will be doing when they head over to the Wrestling with Pop Culture Anniversary Party, which is the official Atlanta Film Festival afterparty for the screening of The Booker. A limited number of autographed copies of the film will be available on DVD, but the challenges PCW faces in the film will pale in comparison to what these guys will face at the Masquerade tonight with Monstrosity Championship Wrestling. Before you go see the movie or head to the afterparty, here’s an interview Matt Hankins, dany only and I did with Perkins on the March 19 edition of Georgia Wrestling Now about tonight’s screening and afterparty.

You’ve made some other documentaries about Motocross and other subjects. What attracted you to professional wrestling and specifically to Stephen Platinum and Platinum Championship Wrestling?

I grew up in the South and watched Joe Pedicino and Boni Blackstone every Saturday night, so I’ve always been a fan of professional wrestling. I knew Steve because he had done some voiceover work for me. I met him through some friends at Dad’s Garage and I really didn’t now about his professional wrestling background. I just knew he had a great voice and after working with him a little bit I found out more about PCW and the timing was perfect because I was really looking for something I could spend a couple of years on. Steve said, “Yeah, I’m getting my wrestling school back together” one day and I said, “Hey, I could make a documentary about that.” He was probably just humoring me at that point, thinking, “Tthere’s no way this guy’s going to stick around.” We were filming for about four years, but he was really good about keeping a dialogue and letting me know what was happening. It just kept rolling until I decided that Sacred Ground: Chapter One would be a good stop for us to cap our story. I really think about the movie itself as an origin story of PCW and Steve chasing his dream of being a big wrestling promoter and actually doing something that’s good.

Stepehen Platinum reaches his breaking point in "The Booker"

The Booker was shot entirely in black and white. Why did you decide to shoot it that way?

The decision to go with black and white for the movie was made about a year into filming. The way we shot the film was a very fly-on-the-wall style. We couldn’t set up a lot of lights because the camera was moving around all the time and a light on the top of the camera was deemed to be too invasive to get the wrestlers to forget about the camera. With so much of the action in our film being in dark or under-lit rooms, we knew that we were going to have to bump up the light in post. This can be done with color footage, but after doing a few tests in black and white we were really blown away by the contrast and grain that we could achieve. That, coupled with the fact that pro wrestling is a seedy business made even more evident in black and white,  helped us really hone in on the look that we wanted for the film.

You recently returned to Academy Theatre after an absence of a few months. Now that Empire Wrestling is in charge, how do you think things have changed since you finished the movie?

I saw a lot of new faces. There’s a constant turnover of people coming in and out, people getting injured. That’s the biggest thing I’ve noticed, especially since Empire, but even since Sacred Ground: Chapter One. I go in and I’m like, “Hey, who’s this guy. Wow. I wish you had been around a few years ago.” And there are people that aren’t there anymore that I miss seeing. Overall, it’s just getting better. It’s grown a lot, the stories get more complex and when you add in the Surrealists, you’re not getting anything like that in any other wrestling promotion. I think it’s going in the right direction and one day the right guy is going to see that promotion and go, “You know what? With a couple of dollars, this thing could be huge.” The content is there, the ideas are there and, I don’t know about you, but I love seeing these tiny dudes wrestle, I love to see the big tubby guys wrestle. That’s what it was when you go back to the NWA and the World Championship Wrestling that I watched in the ’80s. Now everything is just big musclebound guys with spray-on tans that use their real names. But in PCW you never know what you’re going to get.

There are scenes in The Booker that really give you an unprecedented look backstage. Have you had any negative feedback from the wrestling community seeing that some people are still very protective of what goes on backstage?

Again, I think you’ve got to go back to PCW being a unique atmosphere. I don’t think I would have gotten that level of access at another promotion because of … the idea of carrying a story all the way through to the parking lot when you’re getting in your car. But I haven’t really gotten any blow-back from that. Most of the wrestling journalists I’ve talked to have been very positive. I think that barrier had been broken already with Beyond the Mat, where they spent a lot of time with Jake Roberts and Mick Foley. That wall had kind of been broken, people knew what was going, so there hasn’t really been any kind of push-back. At least none voiced to me. I’ve had many other critiques and criticisms about the movie, but none of it has been anyone saying, “How could you let the public in on our secret?” Everybody knows it’s a show, but that doesn’t take away from the physicality and theatrics that are involved.

Why is Jay Fury wearing a Warhorse outfit? I guess he just does that when he plays chess with Geter.

That was one of the things that was really nice about working with the folks at PCW was that I explained to them what I was trying to do. I’m not Michael Moore, I don’t want to make you look dumb, I want to talk about this as an art form. I think once they saw that, and saw that I kept coming back show after show, they realized, “OK. This guy’s for real. This isn’t ‘gotcha’ journalism.” But it took nine months to a year of being around before the wrestlers really started to open up to me. And that was a watershed moment. I remember coming back from a shoot at Sam Stone Studios and my wife was like, “How’d it go?” And I said, “People actually opened up to me tonight.” After people really started interacting with me, it became a lot more fun and a lot more enlightening.

You were there so often you must have had a ton of footage that wasn’t used. Will we see any of that in an extended DVD release?

I think we had 63 hours of footage that had to be cut down to an hour and a half. During that process, me and my editor, Alex Williams, said, “Let’s just put the movie together however we want to put it together, then we’ll cut back.” After our first round of editing, we were at about an hour and 57 minutes. So entire sections of the movie were cut out because we’re trying to appeal to as wide an audience as possible and get it down to a reasonable amount of time. The hope is that when we sell it to a distributor, we can put some of that on as extras. And if in five years this movie has a cult following, I can come out with all the extra footage. But starting out, we wanted to make it where pro wrestling fans would like it and appreciate it, but also where my mom could watch it and go, “Oh, this is an interesting story about an interesting guy.”

The title of the movie is rather striking, especially to wrestling fans. How did you decide on that name?

My editor and I were just kind of looking at each other going, “What the hell are we going to call this thing?” We had been going with the working title of PCW Movie, but that doesn’t sell. So we brainstormed for a couple of weeks and I happened to be cleaning up the office one day and[came across] the second tape I ever shot at Steve’s house. It was labeled “The Booker” and I thought, “Wait a second. That’s a great idea!” But it just goes to further prove the point that we started out with “This is going to be about Steve and about booking wrestling,” then it morphs into people who are doing wrestling, then when you finally get into editing everything down, it’s back to what it originally was.

The Sexual Side Effect herself hosts the Wrestling with Pop Culture Anniversary Party

As the androgynous front woman for the glammy post-punk band The Sexual Side Effects, Amber Taylor is known for her over-the-top persona, even when she’s not performing. Though her attention-grabbing antics certainly haven’t hindered the band’s success, The SSEs mission to bring back the showmanship of such ’70s rock bands as David Bowie and T. Rex, while throwing in elements of dream pop, ’90s college rock and hints of goth, has also helped the band make a bang over the past year or so. Having performed high profile slots at Atlanta Pride Festival, the East Atlanta Strut and it’s own Gilded Trash events at the Masquerade, the band recently caught the attention of award-winning TV director Michael A. Simon, who has worked on such shows as VH1 Storytellers, Rock Star: INXS and Survivor. Simon directed the video for “Aurora,” off the band’s recent High Maintenance EP, which is still in post-production.

Though “Aurora” isn’t quite ready to shine, the band has another video premiering at the Atlanta Film Festival Music & Film Experience March 29. But before that happens, Amber will be hosting the Wrestling with Pop Culture Anniversary Party tonight, adding even more freak show spectacle to an event that already features Monstrosity Championship Wrestling, luchador body painting and the LEGO-headed Death is a Dialogue. Amber and I got drunk a few days ago and had this conversation in front of the Euclid Avenue Yacht Club.

Tell me about the video that will be premiering at the Atlanta Film Festival.

The “All She’ll Ever Hurt” is in the Atlanta Film Festival’s music video competition. It’s a really cool video that was partially filmed at the East Atlanta Strut and at Encyclomedia. It’s directed by David Joseph and it’s all about authentic rock ‘n’ roll and it’s a real video, unlike a lot of videos. It will play during our performance on Thursday, March 28 at the Goat Farm.

The event at the Goat Farm is all music videos with many of the band

Amber Taylor (front) of The Sexual Side Effects hosts the Wrestling with Pop Culture Anniversary Party!

s performing. Tell me a little more about that show.

As far as I know, this is the first year the Atlanta Film Festival has had live musical performances involved in the festival. The event at the Goat Farm is going to be music day, where they’ll have two different stages and six or seven different bands. We’re the last band on our stage and there’s other stuff on the other stage, as well as an area that will be playing the music videos for each band that’s involved. We also did some interviews with Dubious.org about the video and that might be playing as well.

The night before that you’re hosting a pretty special Atlanta Film Festival event that will involve monster wrestling and other festivities.

There’ll be freaks and weirdos, thanks to me. Then there will be wrestlers and rock ‘n’ roll. After thinking about what wrestling and rock ‘n’ roll have in common with each other and what it relates to in our culture, I have surmised that it needs more freaks.

Wrestling was originally a sideshow attraction, which might be why you are part of this event.

And that’s exactly what I hope to bring to it. I hope to beef out the freak side of things. I’d also like to announce right now, publicly, that I’m going to officially run for president. My campaign slogan is, “Amber Taylor for president: a sex change you can believe in.” We’ll definitely  have campaign shirts going sometime near the election. I vote to not D) vote for none of the above but to E) vote for Amber, a sex change you can believe in. I’ve also been informed that we have direct competition within the band. Our bass player, who is unofficially known as Manwhore, is also running for president. Either of us could do a better job than anyone else.

Why don’t you run on the same ticket?

Eh. No. There can only be one lead singer. And we could only make one cool shirt, when there are two cool shirts in this scenario. There’s “Manwhore for president” and there’s “Amber Taylor: a sex change you can believe in.” If the drummer can come up with something cool, we’ll make a cool shirt for him, too. Running for president is all about the cool shirts.

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NeeDeep gets in deep with hard rock and wrestling

Normally being knee deep in anything isn’t a pleasant experience. But when it comes to Atla’s NeeDeep, you can expect to be immersed in a mix of dual hard rock guitars, atmospheric keyboards and male and female vocals. The band has established itself as a top rock act in Atlanta, headlining club shows and opening for touring bands like Nonpoint and Sevendust. In 2009 the band won Project 9-6-1‘s Homegrown to Headliner competition, earning itself an opening slot on Mötley Crüe‘s Crüe Fest. NeeDeep won the same contest in 2010, this time getting to play the main stage at Project 9-6-1’s Family Reunion festival headlined by Shinedown. And last October the band got to play the Kiss Kruise. With Kiss. On a boat.

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Though NeeDeep has shared the stage (and a boat) with some rock monsters, the band has yet to share a bill with monster wrestling. Until now. But wrestling is not totally unfamiliar to NeeDeep as front man Brent “Jakl” Cloud competed in a Platinum Championship Wrestling show in December 2010 with bassist Lew “The Jew” Litzinger in his corner. Their opponent was the Rev. H. Billy Hicks, with NeeDeep front woman Valarie Santos in his corner as a sexy nun. Though they won’t be returning to the ring at the Wrestling with Pop Culture Anniversary Party, they will be performing in between matches that will involve zombies and werewolves, which should be a perfect fit for NeeDeep’s showmanship. Jakl and Lew talk to Wrestling with Pop Culture about this unique event.

NeeDeep has played some big shows, but also headlined its own club shows. How does opening for national acts compare to headlining your own gigs?

Cloud: The problem we’ve always run into with the Atlanta scene is people are always going to support the nationals. When local bands play a local show, it’s a lot of work because you’re doing all the marketing and promoting yourself. On a national show someone else is doing the legwork for you, so you feel more like a rock star.

Litzinger: I’d say the main difference with playing the national shows is you’re getting in front of 1,000 or 2,000 people that have never even heard your name before. That’s a killer thing. Playing the smaller local shows, everybody there knows who you are and they’re there to support you. It kind of weighs itself out because it’s awesome to play the big shows in front of that many people, but at your shows you’re playing in front of people who know you.

What was the Kiss Kruise like?

Cloud: It was a lot older crowd, man. There was a big generation gap. It was awesome for us to be part of it, but our style of music is a lot different than 99 percent of the bands that were on that show. But it’s cool because this is a band that my parents listened to. Just to be able to say we played with Kiss was probably the biggest thing from playing that.

Litzinger: I listened to Kiss as a child and it was like, “Wow! I’m playing with them on a boat.” I never would have ever imagined that we would playing with Kiss on a ship, so it was pretty amazing.

The two of you were also involved in one of the first Platinum Championship Wrestling shows at the Masquerade. What is your background in wrestling?

Cloud: My friend Grant and I always messed around with wrestling ever since the WCW/NWO days. I thought that was a killer time for wrestling. So we started learning how to do it and we got really good at it for two guys who had never really had the training to do it. Brian McNamara, the guy that owns the Masquerade, came to me and told me about this PCW wrestling event. So I got a hold of Stephen Platinum and told him I’d really like to do this one time as kind of a bucket list thing. So I went to his class and learned how to put together a match. Of course, I yanked Lew into it and said, “You’ve got long hair. You could pull it back and put some black glasses on. You’re going to be my manager.” Valarie, our singer, actually dressed as a nun because my opponent was the Rev. H. Billy Hicks. I was just a demon, a bad guy, and as I’m eye gouging him he’s saying he’s blinded by faith and he’s yelling out stuff like, “The power of Jesus compels you.” I was trying my hardest not to bust out laughing and I had Lew behind me yelling and stuff.

People don’t understand that it takes a lot to hold it together in wrestling. The Rock, for instance. People were like, “The Rock’s going to be an actor.” I was like, “He’s already is an actor. This should be easy for him.” But we had a great time.

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Your wrestling gimmick was the Jakl. Why did you choose to spell it that way?

Litzinger: As Lew the Jew, the manager of the Jakl, he really couldn’t spell that well. He was a demon from hell, so he couldn’t spell.

Cloud: Yeah. I’m not really into the writing, man.

Have you guys done any wrestling since then?

Cloud: I’ve been so busy with the band stuff. Wrestling’s entertainment and a lot of people don’t realize the work you have to put in to stay in shape. You can get hurt out there really easily, so you need to be in shape and you need to be practicing your technique all the time. I knew I couldn’t put the time that I’d need to into it, so it wasn’t really worth it to pursue it. Hicks has done some MMA fighting, but he’s won some silver and gold medals in a bunch of different jujitsu events.

At the Wrestling with Pop Culture Anniversary Party, not only will there be wrestling, but there will be monsters wrestling. You’ve played some unique shows, but what do you think about playing on a bill that includes PCW vs. Monstrosity Championship Wrestling, not to mention the walking freak show herself, Amber Taylor from The Sexual Side Effects?

Cloud: I think it’s a cool thing, man. Hard rock goes perfectly with wrestling and I definitely think it’s going to be an exciting event. We’re happy to be a part of it because we’re a different band. We’re not the same band you see where everybody’s wearing blue jeans and another band’s shirt. We wear jumpsuits and stuff, so we’re all about the entertainment. We want to get people off with the optic sensation as well as the ear. We’re all about showmanship and wrestling is driven by that. Us being a part of that is perfect for us.

Litzinger: I personally want to see if Jay Fury is going to be able to fight zombies and monsters.

We’ll see soon!

Prof. Morte brings monsters to the wrestling ring

For the past few years, Professor Morte has been the “ghost host with the most” at the Plaza Theatre‘s Silver Scream SpookShow, where he puts on a classic horror show with go-go dancers, screenings (or as he would say, “screamings”) of retro horror films and appearances by a cast of kooky characters. Last October, he took his monsters to the Atlanta Zombie Apocalypse to entertain the lines of people waiting to tour the facilities of the controversial Centers for Disease Development with the debut of Monstrosity Championship Wrestling. Little has been heard from MCW since those two shows, but Morte is ready to unleash the monsters again to help Wrestling with Pop Culture celebrate its first anniversary. As he plots this ultimate monster battle, he steps away from his lab to talk to Wrestling with Pop Culture about MCW’s return.

Hello again, Professor Morte.

Yes, it’s Professor Morte alive in the undead flesh!

As we’ve discussed on Georgia Wrestling Now over the past few weeks, Monstrosity Championship Wrestling debuted last October at the Atlanta Zombie Apocalypse and the Wrestling with Pop Culture Anniversary Party will be the first show you’ve done since then.

It’s the first indoor show for Monstrosity Championship Wrestling, so we don’t have to worry about lightning strikes.

Well lightning might help with some of the monsters.

Yeah. With some of the monsters we might have to bring the Tesla coils out there to jump start these guys.

A lot of people  may not have seen those shows in October…

Well shame on them! It was the greatest wrestling show that was ever put on. We had Frankenstein’s monster fighting the Wolf Man, we had a big all out zombie battle and it was pretty fangtastic. Those guys were really ripping each other’s arms off and beating each other over the head with them and stuff.

Will there be beheadings at the Monstrosity Championship Wrestling matches?!

Which monsters are on the card for tomorrow night’s show?

It’s a big surprise to everybody involved. We’re going to figure out tonight exactly what is going on tomorrow and which monsters I’ve got to let out of the cage and which monsters I’ve got to kind of spruce up in the lab so they’re presentable. And we’ll figure out what we’re going to do about some of these Platinum Championship Wrestling guys showing up and wanting to cause trouble at the MCW show.

Right. Of course Stephen Platinum very politely issued that challenge a few weeks ago on Georgia Wrestling Now. PCW will be coming over after the Atlanta Film Festival screening of The Booker and I guess they want to mix it up with the monsters a little bit.

Yes. It should be very interesting. I’ve been looking forward to this for about ten years now, so I’m really excited to finally be bringing Monstrosity Championship Wrestling to the Masquerade.

And I’m excited to have it be part of the Wrestling with Pop Culture Anniversary Party.

Great. And congratulations on your first year and all the things you’ve been doing. This show you’re putting on is like a variety show of great things that go on in Atlanta. You really pulled a lot of stuff together. You’ve got my favorite chocolate company with those spooky chocolates from Chocolate F/X and a lot of fun stuff going on at this show. You’ve really worked hard and the sponsors are fangtastic, so I’m looking forward to having an all around good time. Even if you don’t like wrestling, there are monsters! That’s reason enough to come to this show. You’ve got rock ‘n’ roll, you’ve got all kinds of stuff.

Even though it’s an all ages show, Neon Armour will also be doing body painting. So there might even be some boobies.

Oh, boobies! Well, children love boobies. And I love children. They’re delicious. I mean delightful. Children are delightful. So if they want to bring some children I’m sure the children will be very entertained with boobies, too.

With MCW, PCW, the bands, body painting and everything else, there’s sure to be a lot of stimulation at this show.

Over stimulation for some people. I’m really looking forward to it. We’re going to put on one yell of a show tomorrow night. I’m looking forward to scaring the yell out of you and the rest of the people that are attending so they can see just what is going to happen tomorrow night at the Masquerade! Muah ha ha!