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Phantom Troublemaker tells us what the EFF is going on at Dragon Con

Photo by Harold Jay Taylor/Headlocks and Headshots.

Photo by Harold Jay Taylor/Headlocks and Headshots.

Phantom Troublemaker runs a blog called Needless Things that covers wrestling, movies and other aspects of pop culture. He also hosts a Needless Things Podcast (as part of The Earth Station One Network) in which he interviews puppeteers, wrestlers and other interesting people in the entertainment industry. Wrestling fans may recognize him as a member of the DCW Hooligans, a rambunctious group of fans who have found unity in their love of Dragon Con Wrestling, or as the ring announcer for Monstrosity Championship Wrestling, where he’s able to make the otherwise laborious task of raffling off prizes a fun endeavor. Considering my love of DCW and MCW, the fact that I cover many of the same aspects of pop culture with Wrestling with Pop Culture and that I interview wrestlers each week on Georgia Wrestling Now, one might even question if Phantom Troublemaker and I are the same person, especially since we are rarely seen together and he only appears in public while wearing his signature luchador masks. The fact that we both have been avid Dragon Con fans and attendees for a number of years might only strengthen such a claim. But I can assure you we are not the same person and to prove it I’m going to talk to him on the Aug. 4 edition of Georgia Wrestling Now about the numerous Dragon Con panels he will be part of this year (most of which I will also be attending, as further proof that we are just two guys that wear a lot of similar hats, or in his case masks). And with Dragon Con only a few weeks away, I decided to find out more about what the EFF he will be doing this year.

You’ve been attending Dragon Con for many years and have made the transition from attendee to panelist in recent years. But this year marks your first year being officially involved with Dragon Con. Explain this transition from being a fan to being involved with the event.

Ever since I’ve been going I’ve been covering it in one way or another. It started like anybody else, just taking a bunch of pictures and showing them to everybody you know. To an extent, that’s how journalism starts, I think. You just want to share information. That’s what it was for me. I went down there and took a ton of pictures of all the cosplayers, which back then “cosplayers” wasn’t a term. A few years ago, when I started Needless Things and started writing about it, I’d do full recaps afterwards and eventually got to the point where I started doing pre-coverage where I’d write things leading up to Dragon Con. I’d try to interview people involved with the show and, as I got involved with The ESO Network, I started making more connections to the point where I started to know people who actually worked with Dragon Con. Last year I was granted media access and covered it in a professional capacity (I don’t like to use the word professional in relation to myself).

This year, thanks in part to my involvement with MCW, in part to all the work I’ve done on panels for various conventions and in part to people just knowing who I am a little bit more, I’m an attending professional, which is not a guest. I don’t sit in the famous-people room, I don’t necessarily sign things – although if a titty is presented, I will sign it. Or if you want to throw your dong out there, I’ll sign that. I’ve got no standards. Attending professional, which means if somebody says, “Hey, I need a masked dork on my Swamp Thing panel,” I am at their disposal. Currently I’m scheduled for eight panels, including the two late-night specialty panels I’m running.

Before we get to that, when did you first become officially involved with Dragon Con panels?

Phantom Troublemaker

Photo by Jay Hornsby/Belligerent Monkey.

My first panel was in 2012. I sat in on 1982: Best Movie Year Ever for the American Sci-Fi Classics track. I’d never done anything like it before. I love talking and I love talking about nerd stuff. When I do a good job at something, I’m not shy about saying it. And I did a great job. I blew everybody away. After the panel everybody was like, “Hey. That was fantastic. What else can you do? Come back next year and do more stuff.” Aside from the first real MCW show I did, it’s probably one of the most gratifying things I’ve ever been through in my life.

How did you get to do panels before becoming an attending professional?

This is something a lot of people don’t know. If you go to a panel, the people that are sitting up there talking are also fans. All you have to do is go talk to those guys and be like, “Hey. I love this thing you just talked about. What else are you talking about?” If you go to Dragon Con this year and you see a panel you’d want to speak about, you can go talk to somebody and get on that panel. It happens all the time where they’ll have three or four panelists scheduled and somebody gets too drunk, somebody gets double scheduled on panels, all kinds of things can happen and they may need somebody and that somebody could be you. If you’re a fan and you’re good at talking, you can be on a panel. You just have to have personality and knowledge. You don’t have to have any special connections. Granted, I was with the ESO Network at the time, so I did have kind of an in. But now I know if you’ve got charisma and are at least a little bit entertaining, get in there and ask. Like I say with everything in life, if you don’t ask you don’t know.

You’re doing eight panels this year, one of which can be previewed on Aug. 5 at the Red Light Cafe. What the EFF are you doing this year at Dragon Con?

Until four or five years ago, I was unfamiliar with the concept of erotic fan fiction. Call me naive. I just didn’t know there were such depths to our society. But if you go online you can find stories that fans have written about Wolverine and Jean Grey getting it on – graphic depictions of Wolverine butt sex. But it gets worse than that. There’s stuff out there like Lucius Malfoy skull-fucking his son Draco. There’s a whole spectrum of thoroughly disturbing fiction that fans of different levels of mental sickness have produced on the Internet, usually under false names. I wouldn’t know anything about writing under a false name.

When I first discovered this, I thought it would be really fun to get together at Dragon Con one night with some friends and everybody bring their own selections of fan fiction – whether it was Batman and Robocop having sex or Watson giving Sherlock Holmes an enema – and we read them out loud. It’s challenging to read these without laughing because a lot of the people that write these don’t have the best grammar. They’re not skilled writers, obviously, or they wouldn’t be writing Snorks porn. So I thought it would be fun to just sit around with pals, read these and maybe have an adult beverage or two. After working with the American Sci-Fi Classics track for a couple of years, I pitched the idea to Gary [Mitchel] almost as a joke. “Hey. We should do a game show where people have to read erotic fan fiction.” I figured at best the response would be, “Oh, that’s kind of funny. But we couldn’t do anything like that. That’s gross.” Instead, Gary said, “That’s fucking amazing. Done!” I still kind of didn’t believe it was going to happen. Then Joe [Crowe], who runs the American Sci-Fi Classics track with Gary, said, “Here’s the deal. You want to do your game show. You want to show your movie (I’ll get to that in a moment). Saturday night from 10 p.m. to 6 a.m. the room is yours. Whatever you want to do.” That blew my mind. They’re putting a tremendous amount of faith in me to draw people in and run the room.

Miss Lady FlexSo I’m doing a game show called Whose EFF Is It Anyway?, co-hosted by Miss Lady Flex of Le Sexoflex, the sexiest band in the mother-fucking world, straight out of Buttlanta, Georgia. Please visit www.lesexoflex.com and download everything you can. They are incredible and they are the band that brought you the eponymous Dragon Con theme song “Marriott Cock Squat”. So it’s basically like The Gong Show: we’re going to bring people up out of the audience. We want it to be right, so we’re doing a dry run of the game show Aug. 5 here in Buttlanta at the Red Light Cafe. Doors open at 7:30, the show begins at 8. Myself and Miss Lady Flex will be on stage, we’ll have three judges and we’ll be drawing members of the audience up on stage to read selections of erotic fan fiction. This event is sponsored by Inserection and Stardust, which are adult-themed stores that have tobacco products, dildos and sexy lingerie of many different forms. We’ll have prizes from Stardust and Belligerent Monkey, my friend Jay Hornsby who is fantastic and does a lot of pop culture stuff, but does not paint penises. The art provided by Belligerent Monkey will be family friendly. We’ll have lots of prizes, we’ll have lots of fun and if you come out on Aug. 5 you’ll get to see the formation of something that I think is going to be pretty spectacular.

Before we started this interview, you told me about some wrestling erotic fan fiction you had come across. What else can you tell me about that?

This is something I’ve been peripherally aware of since I discovered erotic fan fiction. There is a community of folks who write fan fiction about wrestling. There’s the standard portion of this community that just does stories about maybe AJ Lee and John Cena having a romantic relationship and their struggles behind the scenes working for WWE and maybe a love triangle develops with Roman Reigns or something along those lines. There are a lot of female writers of that stuff and they’re just really expanding on the soap opera aspect of professional wrestling.

So this is completely different from fantasy booking?

No, it’s not even fantasy booking. This is like fantasy backstage booking. They barely even cover matches. They’re worried about the drama aspect. It almost makes sense that this kind of thing would be out there. Of course, like anything else, there is a seedy underbelly of wrestling fan fiction and that is wrestling slash fiction, which I found out today, nine out of ten wrestling slash fiction stories star Randy Orton. It’s just a thing. I didn’t even look for Randy Orton stories. My big goal is to find something with Mick Foley and The Rock. Although Hulk Hogan would be good, Macho Man would be good, a pairing of the two would be great. But Randy Orton came up time and time again. My favorite story that I found today, and I’m still in the midst of research, is one where John Cena gets Roman Reigns pregnant. It was enlightening, really. The reason I’m looking for wrestling-oriented fan fiction is for a very special surprise that I don’t want to announce here, but I can tell you if you’re a fan of Georgia Wrestling Now you know these guys and you’ll be very excited when they show up Saturday night at Dragon Con. We have surprises planned for the Aug. 5 show as well, but the Dragon Con show is the one where we’re going to blow it the fuck out of the water.

Well, I’ll let you wait until the Aug. 4 edition of Georgia Wrestling Now to reveal some of those secrets. Tell me more about the movie screening that will follow your gameshow.

THINGSThis is the second portion of my Saturday-night activities at Dragon Con. Honestly I think I’m going to be spent after Whose Eff Is It Anyway?. But I will struggle through in order to share one of my most beloved movies of all time. It’s a Canadian masterpiece called THINGS. No, not The ThingTHINGS: All caps, all red, always. It is a very, very low-budget movie. It’s the most incompetently-produced movie I’ve ever seen in my life. Your life will literally be changed after you see it. I know a lot of movies make that claim. Citizen Kane, supposedly the greatest movie of all time. It will change the way you look a the world; Schindler’s List, enlightening and will show you a whole different side of things; The Passion of the Christ. I will put THINGS up against any of those movies as a life-altering experience. I’ve shown THINGS to people over the last 15 years time and again and I’ve had people leave the room, I’ve had people leave my home, because of watching THINGS. It’s an experience like nothing else and Joe and Gary, sweet, innocent fellows that they are, are letting me expose Dragon Con to THINGS. I’m very excited about the possibility of ruining so many lives in one night. First is going to be the fan fiction, which I guarantee people are going to be upset about that, then THINGS afterwards. I might put myself out of business, quite frankly. It’s going to be interesting to see if Phantom Troublemaker has to make a heel turn after Dragon Con.

Before all that, of course, is Dragon Con Wrestling and the DCW Hooligans.

The DCW Hooligans will be in full effect once again at Dragon Con Wrestling Friday night at 7 o’clock in the Hyatt Centennial Ballroom. We will be representing in our purple T-shirts. You will see all 430 of us now. Something like that.

Are you a founding member of the DCW Hooligans?

This has never been stated before. Technically I am not. While I had been enjoying Dragon Con Wrestling for a couple of years, it wasn’t until I hooked up with my buddies Ryan, Jay and Pete – they had been attending together for a while and I reconnected with those guys. While I am certainly the catalyst for us becoming the group that we are now, those guys were watching DCW as a group for a couple of years before I was around. Then I started writing my recaps of it and we started really making a concerted effort and making the T-shirts and everything. I put the name on it, but those guys were the heart of it. We take up a whole section now. You’ve been there with us the last couple of years, you’ve seen how ridiculous it is. And you’ve seen that the guys that actually run the DCW show fucking love us. It’s a great experience.

Needless Things

When does your official Dragon Con attending professional experience begin?

Saturday is the beginning of my official panel presence. I don’t have my full schedule, but I can tell you right now – and this is the first time that this has been announced – Saturday morning (and this is probably a terrible mistake) I’m going to be part of a panel called D20. What that is is the American Sci-Fi Classics track is creating an enormous pair of 20-sided dice. One die will have topics on it, the other one will have panelists on it. All of the panelists that work with the Dragon Con American Sci-Fi Classics track are going to be in the room, they’re going to roll the dice and pick panelists and topics. Then we’re going to do five-minute speed panels. It’s going to be ridiculous because chances are most of us are going to be hungover and it’s entirely possible that I’m going to get a topic that I don’t know jack shit about and have to talk about it. So this is one of those random chance things and this is what makes the Sci-Fi Classics track so great is that they’re willing to take chances like that. This could be terrible. It may not be entertaining at all. But at the same time it could be an entertaining train wreck. It’s going to be memorable regardless of the quality. These guys are willing to take chances like that and Whose EFF Is It Anyway and they’re letting me show THINGSThey’re willing to do things for the sake of fun and that’s what makes the track so great.

Immediately after that I’m doing a Transformers panel where we’re going to be talking about the 1984 movie and the toy line in general. Then I’m doing a She-Ra panel because this is, in some weird way, the 30th anniversary of She-Ra even though She-Ra didn’t come out until 1985. Mattel is calling this the 30th anniversary. I don’t get it, but Mattel owns her so I guess that’s what they’re going to do. So I’ve got three panels in a row in that room right after my biggest night of drinking. It’s going to be rough. Whose EFF Is It Anyway? is Saturday night in the same room, then we’ll start the showing of THINGS. Sunday morning is my big panel on ’80s toys where I’m going to be discussing how important gimmicks were to toys in the ’80s. I’ll be sponsored by Billy’s Toys and we’ll have a shit ton of toys there not only for display but for sale. So if you’re looking for Jayce and the Wheeled Warriors, Air Raiders, StarCom, Inhumanoids, we’re going to have all that stuff sitting there on the panel table for you to look at. We’re going to have a great time. Last year it was one of the highest-rated panels at Dragon Con, five out of five stars. It was a really, really great time, so I’m looking forward to this one.

Last year I hosted a panel about Masters of the Universe, the 1987 live-action film and the guys kind of surprised me by having William Stout on the panel, who is a very well-renowned artist who did design on the movie. He was absolutely fantastic, a wonderful talker and had lots of great stories about the movie. You can find the podcast of that and my other panels if you go to www.needlessthingssite.com and search for Dragon Con. William Stout is coming back this year and I get to work with him again on Sunday night. We’re going to be sitting down and talking about Conan the Destroyer, which he worked on in the same capacity as he did on Masters of the Universe as a production designer. Just like Masters of the Universe, lots of people malign Conan the Destroyer as being inferior, but the production design is beautiful. The castles, the sets, everything is just gorgeous. William Stout is a fascinating guy and this is another panel that was a surprise to me. I guess he had a good time last year and wanted to work with me again, which is very rewarding. 

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Madeline Brumby talks monsters, makeup and more at Monsterama

Madeline Brumby

Photo by Ashley Anthony.

The Monsterama horror convention makes its debut in Atlanta Aug. 1-3 and brings with it a cadaverous cadre of horror legends and underground favorites. Featuring the likes of Space Ghost Coast to Coast‘s C. Martin Croker, Big In Japan writer Timothy Price, Monstrosity Championship Wrestling’s Professor Morté and Hammer scream queen Veronica Carlson, Monsterama is not likely to disappoint fans of horror films, comic books, literature, art and theater. But Monsterama also features a new generation of creatures ready to rise from their proverbial coffins. One such vixen is Madeline Brumby, who played Edna Marco in the cult favorite Dear God No!, danced as a Go-Go Ghoul in the Silver Scream SpookShow and has helped stave off the undead at Atlanta Zombie Apocalypse, among other spooky endeavors. As she prepares for a weekend of scream queens, monster makeup and other atrocities, she takes a moment to talk to Wrestling with Pop Culture about her burgeoning horror career and what her role will be at Monsterama.

What exactly is your role at the inaugural Monsterama? 

I just got involved pretty recently when Anthony Taylor asked me to be a guest, which I was excited about. He’s one of the creators and organizers of Monsterama. I have the opportunity this Friday to host a panel with Veronica Carlson, who was a Hammer star and a scream queen. We’re doing a panel talking about acting in horror films and what that was like. I’m really interested to hear what she has to say since she had quite a career that went on for many years. She did all sorts of productions for Hammer and was quite a striking looking woman. She was definitely in the prime time for horror films.

She obviously has a much more storied career than you’ve had at this point. I’m guessing you’ve drawn inspiration from quite a bit of her work. What do you anticipate when you host this panel with her?

Madeline Brumby (right) as one of Dracula's brides in the Little 5 Points Rockstar Orchestra's production of "Dracula". Photo by Stungun Photography.

Madeline Brumby (right) as one of Dracula’s brides in the Little 5 Points Rockstar Orchestra’s production of “Dracula”. Photo by DornBrothers.

I’ve definitely admired her. I imagine she’ll probably have a lot of behind-the-scenes stories that will be interesting about how her career started, how she fell into that kind of path. I fell into the horror path kind of by accident. It’s not that I had anything against it, it just kind of went that way. It seemed to be the thing that most people were trying to do independently. That’s how I found Dear God No!. I’m curious how she got started and that’s what I’d like to ask her about.

Tell me a little more about how you ended up in Dear God No! and the horror industry in general.

I was scrolling through auditions and casting calls and things like that and I stumbled across an audition log for Dear God No!. It was well written and the person who wrote this call was obviously intelligent, knew what they were writing about and there weren’t misspellings. Every single answer was posted for questions that all actors and actresses are looking for. Do you get paid? How long does it shoot for? What is the actual role? What is expected of the character? It said Edna Marco, kind of young, slightly abused female, some nudity required. I was like, “Sounds interesting. I’ll submit and see what happens.” Jimmy Bickert responded in, like, ten minutes. So, I was like, “Oh, OK. I guess they’re really looking for somebody. Maybe the script is great or not so great. Or maybe he really does like me.” It’s hard to tell when you’re young and not too familiar with how independent projects work. I didn’t know if it was some weirdo. I auditioned and got the role and that’s how I fell into Dear God No!.

I understand you had a career in biology prior to that, but were you already doing any acting before Dear God No!?

I was. I got my biology degree from Georgia Tech. I finished up with school and decided I did not want to pursue a field in medicine any more. I was much happier doing performing arts, being on stage or being in front of a camera. I had done a science fiction project, I had done drama projects, I had done small commercials and was just on the hunt for other projects until Dear God No! came along. That just changed everything. It was such an interesting group of people that were really pushing for the success of the film. It got me involved in a completely different world of people that was super awesome for me. I’d always liked horror and it just made a world of difference for me and my career.

Was that how you ended up working with the Silver Scream Spookshow and Atlanta Zombie Apocalypse?

Madeline Brumby

Photo by Jonny Rej.

I ended up falling in love with [horror artist/special effects expert] Shane [Morton]. At the time I was not involved with the Spookshow. Then the Spookshow kind of reassembled a few months after Dear God No! was filmed  and I was invited on to the Spookshow. I’ve always loved doing children’s theater and shows for kids. I enjoy their genuine response to theater, so I was really on board with that. Through Shane, I’ve certainly met all sorts of interesting people and learned a totally new skill set, which is doing makeup. I’m also helping with a panel at Monsterama with some other folks doing makeup.

That was actually my next question was how will Dear God No!, the Spookshow and AZA be represented at Monsterama? 

There is going to be a Spookshow. We’re showing The Valley of Gwangi and there will be a fun Spookshow just before that. We’re also showing Atlanta Zombie Apocalypse: The Movie at 11 p.m. on Friday. I’m helping with several makeup panels. It should be a really fun convention if you’re into literature, if you’re into film or if you want to see how to do some cool makeup.

Are there any other guests you’re excited about seeing at Monsterama?

I am excited about seeing Victoria Price, daughter of Vincent Price. It will be really interesting just to say, “Hello” to her and find out what it was like growing up with Vincent as her dad. She just seems like an interesting person and she’s been a huge supporter of her father.

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Jerry Buckner brings “Pac-Man Fever” to the inaugural Southern-Fried Gameroom Expo

 

 

 

A week or so ago, a pinball enthusiast friend of mine told me about this weekend’s inaugural Southern-Fried Gameroom Expo. Though I’m not an avid gamer these days, I did spend more of my youth than was likely healthy playing a variety of arcade games, pinball machines and home consoles. While my friend’s main interest in the SFGE is the International Flipper Pinball Association-sanctioned Southern-Fried Pinball Tournament, attracting pinball players from across the country, I soon realized there’s much more pop culture relevance to this event than one might expect. Sure, there’s a gaming area, high-profile gaming sponsors and other attractions for the Xboxers and Playstationers. But there are also film screenings, podcasters and other activities with enough pop cultural relevance that even casual video game fans are likely to find something of interest.

Southern-Fried Gameroom ExpoOne of the more intriguing aspects for me is an appearance by Jerry Buckner, one half of the Buckner & Garcia duo responsible for the ’80s hit single “Pac-Man Fever” who has gone on to have an award-winning career in music, broadcasting, voice acting and more. Come to find out, he also happens to reside in the Atlanta area, not far from where I spent many days listening to my “Pac-Man Fever” record as a child. Buckner will be appearing at the SFGE for the first public screening of The King of Arcades on June 20, as well as a panel and meet-and-greet on June 21. Before he slides the proverbial quarter into this weekend’s festivities, Buckner talks to Wrestling with Pop Culture about his power pellet of a hit, almost writing music for WWE and returning to the video game world with Wreck-It Ralph.

First of all, until a few days ago I was unaware that one of the guys who wrote “Pac-Man Fever” lived in the Atlanta area. How long have you  lived in Atlanta and why did you move here?

I’m originally from Akron, Ohio. I had a guitar player/singer friend from Akron who moved to Atlanta and shortly after convinced me to come down and work here. This was back in the ’70s and he said there were some things going on in the music business here. I was very interested in that as a songwriter, so I came down and played in some local bands. Eventually, my schoolmate and friend from Akron, Gary Garcia, followed suit and came down with me and we began doing jingles, commercials and writing songs. That’s how “Pac-Man Fever” came about in 1982. We actually had a few minor successes prior to that, but nothing of the magnitude of “Pac-Man”. So that’s how I ended up in Atlanta and I never left. I’m still here.

I actually still have my 7-inch copy of “Pac-Man Fever” and never knew, as a kid, that you guys lived right down the street when you created it. 

I lived in an apartment in Doraville when we wrote the song. We had been working at a studio in Marietta doing jingles and various things at the time and we went to dinner at this little place on the Marietta Square and that’s where we saw our first Pac-Man machine. We started playing it like everybody else and got hooked on it. At some point we thought, “Hey! Maybe it would be cool to write a song about this.” So we did and took it over to Arnie Geller and Buddy Buie. Buddy was the songwriter/manager/producer for the Atlanta Rhythm Section at that time. They liked the idea and we worked on the song in the front room of this little apartment in Doraville, then went in and recorded it. That’s how it all started.

So it wasn’t something you were hired to do to promote the video game?

No. We just took a shot at it. What we tried to do with that song was, we didn’t want to just do some kind of throw-out song and throw some sound effects in. We wanted to write a pop song that could stand up on its own legs pretty well musically, then add things in. It was just an idea we came up with and we did it.

Being from Akron, you’re certainly familiar with Devo. During that time there seemed to be a lot of bands like Devo and “Weird Al” Yankovic that were doing parody songs and things of that nature. Did any of that stuff influence you guys?

Pac-Man FeverI didn’t know Devo personally, but we had a connection to them. I had a band called Wild Butter in 1970 and the bass player’s brother opened up a studio and a bunch of groups came through the studio. Devo was one of the groups, unknown at the time, that came over and recorded. There were several groups from Akron that came over. In fact, Chrissie Hynde used to come out to where we used to play and she told us, “I’m going to be a star one day.” And eventually she was. Anyway, there was that time period when all those groups were recording in this little studio and it was pretty interesting to hear some of that early stuff. I can’t say there was influence, though. Gary and I grew up with the Beatles, pretty much like everyone else in our age group. And we loved blues and a lot of different kinds of music. We played together as a duo, we were in different bands together, you name it, we did it. We weren’t necessarily trying to write a novelty song as much as it was just an idea that came and we decided to do it.

We were working with an artist named Steve Carlisle, who also was from Atlanta, and he sang the theme to WKRP in Cincinnati. We were working on two different projects and recorded the extended version of the theme song with Steve. In fact, “WKRP” and “Pac-Man Fever” were, at one time, side by side on Billboard. But we weren’t necessarily influenced by Devo or any of those other groups. We just liked pop songs and tried to write a pop song utilizing Pac-Man.

I understand that the success of that song resulted in an entire album of songs inspired by video games. Tell me a little more about that.

We recorded “Pac-Man” and Buie-Geller shopped it to every label and nobody wanted it. They didn’t really know what Pac-Man was, which was part of the problem. So they put it out themselves, it got played on a local station and the song just exploded. People went crazy for it and within a few weeks CBS Records purchased the master and released it nationally right before Christmas. Right after the first of the year, when it became apparent it was going to be a national hit, they said, “Look, we really want an album to go with this.” We started working on an album and we wanted to do some regular songs. We recorded two songs and they sent the vice president down to listen to what we were doing and, “Oh, no. We want it to be all game songs.” We knew if we did that we would get labeled as just doing that, but we wanted to go along with the program. So we converted two of the songs to game songs, then created the rest of them and that was the album. It’s kind of an amazing thing because people know those album cuts, I’m not going to say as well as “Pac-Man,” but they know those cuts pretty well and like them and request them. So the whole album became kind of a pop culture phenomenon.

I read something about a song you wrote for E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial that confused me a little. Explain that song to me, if you don’t mind.

That was our nightmare story. E.T. came out the summer of ’82 and “Pac-Man” was a national hit while the movie was out. We went to see the movie and we were drawn into it like everybody else. It was a great film. I had this song I was working on about a family pet I had lost and out of sadness wrote this little melody on the piano about this dog. We got the idea we should do a song about E.T., so we took this melody and switched the concept to E.T. It came out as a very pretty ballad. They took it to CBS, CBS loved it and said, “This has got to be the next single.” Our manager flew to California to meet with Steven Spielberg to get his approval. They had the meeting and our manager told us Spielberg played it over and over again and Spielberg said, “I wish John Williams had come up with this song for the film.” When Arnie came back to Atlanta, he said, “I think they’re thinking about pulling the film back and putting the song in the film. Spielberg loved it!” We were all excited because that was going to be a major thing. Suddenly there was a fly in the ointment and within a couple of days problems developed. Neil Diamond, who was a huge artist at the time with CBS, had the “Heartlight” song. When CBS found out he had the song at the same time, of course he had the juice to get his song released ahead of ours. So CBS declined to release ours and “Heartlight” came out and took all of the thunder of the movie. They released our E.T. song a few months later and, ironically, where it was played, it still got tremendous reaction. But they didn’t promote it. They just let it die. So it was a very sad thing and we were very upset about it. It really drove a wedge between us and CBS and we got out of our contract because of it.

Did it appear on your next album?

Well, we didn’t do any more recording for CBS. We thought we had a deal with RCA, but we didn’t. So we decided just to go into production of other artists and groups. “E.T.” came out as a single, but was never on an album. We redid the Pac-Man Fever album in 1999 when CDs became big, we did another version of “E.T.” and it is on the current Pac-Man Fever
album as a bonus track. But it’s not the original.

What are the main differences between the original Pac-Man Fever album and the 1999 version?

When we did the original album, back in those days we didn’t have the ability to download stuff and get stuff off machines. We had to actually record it live off the machine. Those sound effects were kept with the masters and the masters were kept at Studio One, which I think was eventually sold to Georgia Tech. By 1999, those masters were so old that they could have brittle. They couldn’t find the sound effects track anyway, so we weren’t able to get those original soundtracks and we had to go in and try to find them. Some of them weren’t so easy to find in 1999. Most of them sound pretty close, but they’re not exactly the same. People who really know the album are  kind of critical of us for not using the same thing. The problem is, CBS would not put the album out again because we had to get different licenses for that album from the different companies and they didn’t want to have to go back through all the legal problems to re-release it. But people wanted a CD version of it, so we decided to do it ourselves. So we had to try to recreate everything and it’s not going to sound quite the same, as hard as we try.

So, you also did a bunch of songs for the Waffle House jukeboxes. I always loved those songs.

I appreciate you saying that. They’re the type of pop songs Gary and I liked to write. Gary didn’t work with me much on that. He did do vocals on some of the tracks. That came about because Mary Rogers, who was married to Joe Rogers Jr., the owner of Waffle House, was an excellent singer and having a lot of success on her own. They got the idea to do some songs for the jukebox, so in ’84 she asked me to help out. We began doing songs for the jukebox and it turned out to be a good idea – people liked them and it was kind of a novelty when you came in there. We ended up doing a lot of those songs. Funny thing is, all my kids and their friends were more impressed by the Waffle House jukebox songs than anything else I’ve ever done. People seem to think that’s a pretty cool thing and I enjoyed doing them. We were still doing them up until about a year and a half ago. They’ve kind of put it on hold for now, so we’ll see what the future holds. Of course, they’ve changed that whole system and don’t have jukeboxes. It’s more of a digital computer thing that plays through the speakers.

A couple of years ago things kind of came full circle for you when you did a song for the video game-inspired movie Wreck-It Ralph. How did that come about? Was that a song you were already working on or something you did specifically for the film?

Wreck-It RalphIt was an amazing thing that occurred. I got a call from Tom MacDougall at Disney, who’s in charge of music, and Tom said they had this movie coming out and there was a song they were working on and it would be great if we did the song. Gary passed away suddenly in November of 2011, just prior to when Disney contacted us, so I wasn’t sure how it would work out. One of the guys in the band, Danny Jones, who plays drums and also is an excellent singer, talked about it with Gary’s widow and decided Danny could maybe sing the song. Disney was happy with that as long as it said Buckner & Garcia and it had the Buckner & Garcia sound. We all agreed to do it and there’s a producer in L.A. Disney used named Jamie Houston, who worked with a lot of big acts and several of the American Idol winners. He started on the song and sent it to me, we worked on it and completed it, then he flew in and produced the song. Disney loved what we did and included it in the soundtrack – it was actually the title track to the movie – as the number two song on the actual album. It was so sad Gary could not be part of that. He would have just been thrilled with it. But it’s opened a lot of new doors for us, which is greatly appreciated. To sit in the theater and see your name in the credits of a Disney film is just fantastic.

Just out of curiosity, have you ever done any work for WWE or anything wrestling related?

No, but I almost did. Funny you would even ask that. Back in the ’80s, after “Pac-Man Fever,” Arnie, our manager, was in New York and became Cyndi Lauper‘s manager. Of course, Cyndi was one of the main people that got that whole wrestling thing happening on TV in the ’80s with Vince McMahon. Arnie used to laugh about some of the guys that would come by the office to see her. “Rowdy” Roddy Piper used to come by all the time and Arnie liked Rowdy, said he was a pretty good guy. At one point, Arnie said they needed a theme song. So we put something together and sent it up there, but they really were looking for more raw rock ‘n’ roll kind of stuff and we were more pop/top 40 kind of stuff. So that didn’t work out for us at that time, but we almost did it.

They have an in-house composer named Jim Johnston who does probably 99 percent of WWE’s music now.

If there’s one guy doing it, I think he’s doing a great job. I love watching Monday night Raw. It’s fun to watch and the music matches up great with each of the characters, so I’d say he’s doing a great job.

The inaugural Southern-Fried Gameroom Expo is this weekend and you’re going to be a big part of it. What exactly will your role be at this event?

The King of ArcadesWhen I was approached last fall, they wanted me to come by and hang out, maybe do some question-and-answer deals, sign some autographs, talk to people and just kind of be there on Saturday. In addition to that, there’s a documentary called The King of Arcades. Sean Tiedeman, an independent filmmaker, co-produced it with Adam Goldberg, who does The Goldbergs show on ABC. They put this film together and asked me to be in it to talk about our album, which I did. They’re screening that film on Friday. It’s a great film about ’80s video games and a guy named Richie Knucklez, who is very well known in the game industry – he’s had arcades, he’s had a band. Richie re-cut “Pac-Man Fever,” but it’s a straight-ahead rock ‘n’ roll kind of thing, and that’s in the film at the end. Billy Mitchell’s in it, he’s the top video game player of all time, with a bunch of other people. So I’m looking forward to that and looking forward to meeting people and hanging out. Incidentally, these conventions are starting to happen more now and we’ve had invitations from Houston and Dallas later on in the year and they want the band to come play. We really weren’t prepared to do that at this show in Atlanta, but we may actually go play in Houston and Dallas and see what happens. It’s fun to be part of all this. We kind of became a part of pop culture with the video game attachment and it’s fun. I love doing it.

You’ve also done a lot of voice acting. Do you have any new or upcoming projects in voice acting, music or elsewhere?

I got into radio for a while by accident. I did it for fun, then people said, “Hey, we’ll pay you.” Then I got into voice acting, which is a little bit different than doing voice-overs because you’re actually doing characters. I enjoy doing it. As far as that goes, I’m doing a variety of different things. I was the narrator for a History Channel show called Big Shrimpin’, which ran for eight episodes. What I’m really excited about musically, because of the Disney track, we’re working on some new stuff. I really can’t say the names of the projects because they don’t want us to. But there’s going to be a couple of new songs about some huge games. It won’t be Buckner & Garcia; it’s going to be younger artists singing. We’re working on that project and that should be a lot of fun once we get that out.

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The Walking Dead Escape brings “The Walking Dead” to life in Atlanta

The Walking Dead EscapeIn The Walking Dead, we see zombies terrorizing Atlanta and other parts of Georgia while a handful of survivors find inventive ways of eluding their undead aggressors. On May 31 The Walking Dead Escape brings its touring zombie spectacle to Philips Arena for the first time  in conjunction with Wizard World Atlanta Comic Con.

This immersive event is a cross between a traditional Halloween haunted attraction and an obstacle course, allowing you to take part either as a spectator, a survivor or a walker. Survivors have to make their way through realistic post-apocalyptic settings in hopes of getting to the decontamination zone without being infected. Professional makeup artists turn walkers into the living dead, who then have to go through zombie training before their hunt begins. Spectators just watch it all happen, which sounds kind of boring given the other options. It sounds a lot like Atlanta Zombie Apocalypse with a bigger budget.

Photo courtesy WWE.

Photo courtesy WWE.

With The Walking Dead stars Norman Reedus, Michael Rooker and Keith Brooks across the street at Wizard World, don’t be surprised if some of the show’s real stars show up at for The Walking Dead Escape. But even if they’re not able to make it, there will be some other legendary personalities on hand to sign autographs and meet fans. Darryl McDaniels of Run DMC will be there and WWE Hall of Famer Booker T will be taking photos from 7:30 p.m.-9:30 p.m. What DMC and Booker T have to do with zombies, I don’t know. But I’m going to try my darndest to get Booker to say, “I’m coming for you, zombies!” Marquese Scott and his Dragon House dance crew will also be doing “Thriller”-esque dance performances in zombie makeup at 9 p.m.

Wrestling with Pop Culture will be joined by Monstrosity Championship Wrestling ring announcer and Needless Things‘ own Phantom Troublemaker for a jaunt through Escape. So listen to Georgia Wrestling Now on June 2 to hear my thoughts on The Walking Dead Escape. www.thewalkingdeadescape.com

Zenescope Entertainment makes its Atlanta debut at Wizard World Atlanta Comic Con

Wizard World Atlanta Atlanta Comic Con takes place at the Georgia World Congress Center May 30-June 1 and brings with it a multitude of pop culture icons such as Marvel Comics legend Stan Lee, WWE‘s Big Show, Run DMC‘s Darryl McDaniels and The Walking Dead‘s Norman Reedus. Amidst all that hoopla are some of the biggest names in independent art, comics and wrestling, all of which can be found at Zenescope Entertainment‘s booth (#330).

Wizard World Atlanta Comic Con "Code Red" exclusive variantZenescope is best known for its contemporary re-imaginings of fairy tales and fables such as Grimm Fairy Tales, which celebrates its 100th issue in July. But at Atlanta Comic Con, Zenescope will be offering Wizard World exclusives of the fifth and final issue of its Code Red series (with cover art by Jason Metcalf) as well as the trade paperback that collects the entire series.

Code Red is our Red Riding Hood series,” says Zenescope president Joe Brusha, who co-creates most of Zenescope’s titles. “She’s a more edgy adult Red Riding Hood. She’s kind of a werewolf hunter mercenary and just all-around badass independent female. The Wizard World exclusive is limited to 500 copies, then there’s a little sexier version limited to 250 and they’ll both be on sale at the convention.”

Zenescope has become a mainstay at most Wizard World events around the country, handing out thousands of free comics to film, video game and pop culture enthusiasts.

“It’s our first time in Atlanta, so we didn’t do a ton of exclusives,” says Brusha. “We’re just trying to get out there and get new readers and new fans. We’ll hand out about 2,000 free comics at our booth.”

In keeping with the provocative nature of Zenescope’s heroines, those looking for a “sexperience like no other” will be delighted to see Pro Wrestling Resurrection Tag Team Champions the Rock ‘n’ Roll Models (Matt “Sex” Sells and Johnny Danger) making appearances at the Zenescope booth troughout the weekend.

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