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An Evening with Corey Taylor offers sinfully intimate interaction with the Slipknot/Stone Sour front man

By Jonathan Williams

Best known as the monster mask-wearing singer for metal band Slipknot, as well as the singer for the more hard rock oriented Stone Sour, Corey Taylor has recently shown his more studious side. First he was a guest lecturer at Oxford University this past June, then he released his first book, Seven Deadly Sins, in July. For the past couple of weeks he’s been on a solo tour that features spoken word and acoustic performances, as well as more intimate interaction with his fans than anything he’s done previously. With the tour continuing through Dec. 13, Taylor took a moment to talk to Wrestling with Pop Culture about the shows, the book and the wrestling-style promo he did to promote the tour.

So you’re about a week or so into your first spoken word and solo acoustic tour. How’s it going so far?

It’s going really well. Unless I say something stupid onstage, like make fun of the Pope or something, I think we’re doing alright.

This is obviously not your first time performing without your Slipknot mask, but it is a more revealing and intimate look at who you are as a performer than anything you’ve done previously. That being said, what can people expect from these shows?

I wasn’t really sure how the audience would respond to it and they have responded so wonderfully. Basically the show is me running my mouth for the first hour, then I take a quick pee break, then I play for, like, an hour and a half. It’s anywhere from two-and-a-half to three hours every night. It’s been a lot of fun. I come out and I rant in the vein of whatever chapter I’m going to read from that night, so every night is different. Then I read from the book, we do a Q&A, then we play some songs. It’s been really fun for me specifically because I love to have one foot in the structured side and one foot in the extemporaneous side. I love being spontaneous and if something’s feeling a certain way you just run with that. The audience has been so into it it’s really been awesome. Basically it’s like if [Henry] Rollins, [George] Carlin and Dave Grohl were the same person. That’s really been the response we’ve gotten.

I just got a copy of the book a few days ago, so I haven’t had a chance to spend much time with it yet.

Well, I apologize in advance.

I’m sure it’s not that bad. Tell me a little bit about the concept behind the book and why you decided to write a book.

I’ve been threatening to write a book for a long time. It’s one of those things I’ve always wanted to do since I was a kid. I’ve been a voracious reader since I was young and once I developed a taste for writing I knew that someday, if I ever got the chance, I’d want to write a book. When the chance came along, I jumped for it.

The concept of the book was originally just going to be about philosophy and me taking the piss out of philosophy in general. Luckily my agent talked me out of that and was like, “Dude, that will be 5,000 pages, it’ll weigh as much as a Volkswagen Beetle, we can’t do that.” I was like, “What do you suggest?” We kind of shot some ideas back and forth and he’s actually the one that said, “Why don’t you write about the Seven Deadly Sins?” At first, I was like, “That’s kind of a hackneyed premise when you get down to it. Why don’t I write it from the standpoint that they’re not sins, they’re just part of being human?” The more I thought about it, the more I truly believed that. So I basically used the book to make that argument that the Seven Deadly Sins are not sins at all; they’re part of being human and making mistakes. They can lead to sin, but the emotion itself is not the sin. I think in this modern literal world, we break it down into what is literal. There’s no room for esoteric mistakes anymore, so for me it made more sense to make that argument and balance it with stories from when I was growing up or being on the road and whatnot and basically say, “Look, I went through all of these ‘sins’ and I came out the other side and I’m a better husband, better father, better person for it. So how can you call that sin?” The reaction has actually been really good.

Did you have to do a lot of re-reading of The Canterbury Tales, John Milton and all that?

I read that stuff a long time ago. I studied it in school and read it on my own and whatnot, but I didn’t want to get too ensconced in the original material. I really wanted to make it feel a little more fresh. That’s one of the reasons I left out the Seven Golden Virtues. I wanted to concentrate on the sins themselves and really pick them apart like that. I knew that if I got too deep into the original material, I would start to quote too much. I brushed up on it briefly, but for the most part I just kind of ran with it. I did my best to make sure everything I was writing was as original as I could make it.

Was the spoken word tour part of the plan the entire time or did that come about after you finished the book?

That came out of nowhere. It came from two things, honestly. It came from my speaking engagement at Oxford and the two gigs I booked after the book had come out in England. I was doing a signing tour in England anyway and I thought, “Let’s just go into a club and do a show.” Those two shows were so much fun that I was like, “We’ve got to do this in the States. There’s no way I would not want to do this in the States.”

The Oxford engagement was really where I came up with the idea for the Q&A. At the end of my speech, I could tell no one wanted to leave. So I was like, “We’ve got a little more time, you got any questions you want to ask me?” It was so much fun. With every question, I had a weird little story I could tell. So it was really cool to be able to kind of incorporate those two ideas into the American tour. One of the reasons the show is different every night is because not only is my rant at the beginning a little different, but the questions allow me to tell different stories and really break it up and give something to people so that specific show is completely different.

How did the Oxford engagement come about?

They had been trying to get me to do that for about three years. I was always on the road or in the studio and I just never had any time to go and do it. So I was really lucky that they came to me every year for three years and finally that last year I was actually going to be in London anyway for the Kerrang Awards and for Slipknot rehearsals. So I was like, “Absolutely! Let’s do it. If I don’t do it this year I’m never going to get to do it.” I’m so glad I did. It was just fantastic and so much fun.

The tour announcement video you did featured you cutting a wrestling promo for a fictitious promotion called the IBWF (I Be Wrestling Federation). What was the inspiration for that?


We were sitting at my kitchen table trying to think of a different way to promote the tour. I hate doing the same crap over and over. It drives me nuts after a while, so I wanted to do something different. And I went, “Oh my God. A wrestling promo!” Everyone around me was like, “That’s amazing!” It was right around the time that the Halloween shops had sprouted up everywhere, so I was able to find everything I needed in one day. We went back to the house, I put on my ridiculous outfit and we shot it in 10, 15 minutes. It was great. I knew people would take that and run with it. The weirder I get, the more the fans are into it for some damn reason. It was a perfect way to set the tour up. Plus it gave us a chance to put Chicken Cow Cow back out there. Search for Chicken Cow Cow on YouTube and it’s the first thing that comes up. It’s my little dance remix thing that I do with my keyboard.

Were there certain wrestlers you drew from stylistically when cutting that promo?

Obviously there’s Hulk Hogan in there somewhere. I’ve been a wrestling fan since I was a kid. If you embrace it for what it is, which is entertainment, I have no illusions about the fact of if it’s real or not. But I know it’s physically taxing and it takes great skill to make it look good and no skill to make it look crappy. I know the people who rise to the top are the best in the business and it’s almost a metaphor for the music business. People come and go, but legends stay forever. My all-time favorite wrestler is Stone Cold, but I also love the Rock, Triple H, Shawn Michaels and the wrestlers I grew up with, which is Hogan, Ricky “The Dragon” Steamboat, Tito Santana, Andre [the Giant], even “Hacksaw” Jim Duggan. I got to meet him and Brutus “The Barber” Beefcake and I was, like, freaking out. I was losing my shit, I was like, “Oh my God. You guys are awesome.” I’m still a fan.

Do you still follow it much these days?

I try to. But it’s like getting to watch football on Sundays, it’s hit or miss. I know the Rock is back. I was actually at the Anaheim show when he came out and they announced him as the guest host for WrestleMania this year. I lost it. I jumped up out of my chair and was losing my mind, so much so that I scared an entire family sitting behind me. They were like, “Excuse me, sir. Could you just sit down? I’ve got kids here and they’re trying to see.” I was like, “No. I won’t sit down. I don’t care. It’s the Rock. Get out of my face.” Then I sat down and was like, “Sorry, I’m just really hopped up on sugar.”

Were you there as a guest of WWE or as a paying fan?

I was there as a fan. It’s very rare that I go to anything as a guest. I’m just like everybody else, I buy my ticket. There’s not a lot of shows that I go to, whether it’s wrestling or music or whatnot. But at the end of the day, I can buy a ticket like anybody else. With the rare exception of if I’m friends with the band I’m going to see, then I’ll call them. But that’s really because I want to hang out with them, catch up with them, see if they’re doing OK and whatnot. But when it’s band’s like Van Halen or Nine Inch Nails or whatever, I buy my tickets, I go and I sit, watch the show, love the show and if I don’t get close seats, so be it.

Now that you’ve done spoken words, acoustic performances and various other musical projects, do you think you’ll be branching out into more mediums in the future?

Maybe. People ask me all the time if I want to get into acting and whatnot. I don’t want to be the star of a movie or anything, but I would love to do some supporting stuff and just be the guy that walks by in the background and you’re like, “Did I just see Corey Taylor in that movie?” I want to be the body on CSI so bad I can’t even breathe.

Me and Clown [Slipknot’s Shawn Crahan] are actually starting our own film production company where we’re going to start making crazy, twisted, weird movies. Movies that everyone can enjoy, but also movies that look great, feel great, that are different. We want to make movies that look fantastic, but also scare the crap out of you or make you think. So that’s something we’re working on right now.

For more information, go to www.thecoreytaylor.com.

 

VNV Nation brings its retro-futuristic “Automatic” tour to the U.S.

By Jonathan Williams

With its latest album Automatic, electro-industrial act VNV Nation has created one of its most successful and forward-thinking works to date. Heavily inspired by the sleek art deco minimalism and optimistic spirit of the American ’30s, Automatic is a stylistic and thematic departure from previous albums while maintaining the signature sounds that singer Ronan Harris and drummer Mark Jackson have established for VNV Nation. Having just finished a massive European tour in support of the album, the band’s United States tour kicks off tomorrow with German electronic dance act Straftanz opening each show. Just before departing Ireland for the tour, Harris talks to Wrestling with Pop Culture about Automatic.

Ronan Harris and Mark Jackson of VNV Nation. Photo by Ben Wolf

You just finished a European tour in support of Automatic and you begin your U.S. tour tomorrow. How have the shows been going so far?

I’m not lying when I say they’ve been going phenomenally well. The album came out at the beginning of September while we were on tour and we really put a lot into this tour. We started doing an extended set, so we’ve been playing anywhere from two-and-a-half to three hours, which really seemed to fly by. We played all over Europe and the reactions from fans and reviews have said this is the best tour we’ve done so far. We have a set that we think really kicks and we just played in Scandinavia last week and people were blown away, saying this was the best show ever. That’s not something you can intend to do, that’s not something you can plan to do, you just hope it works out. It seems to have paid off in spades. People are going nuts about it. It’s a very energetic show with ups and downs and it just keeps people going.

I understand you recorded this album a little differently than you’ve recorded previous albums. How did the Automatic process differ from other albums and how have you translated that to these live shows?

There are a lot of computers in our setup. We have two computers on stage, which are operated by the keyboardists, and they’re using sounds that are on the album. Sometimes it’s loops, sometimes it’s sounds and melodies, but we try to have as much playback live as is possible. There’s a computer system at the front of the house that has all the multi-tracks and all the other bits and pieces. This isn’t like playing a guitar and a bass, there’s a lot of weird little sequences, effects and loops. The drummer is playing a lot of the sounds from the album as well, so the whole thing together is as much as we can split off the actual recording and recreate live as is possible. Then there are a ton of videos and all kinds of fun stuff.

As far as the album production is concerned, there were things with the last album that I really wished I had done differently. That didn’t make it a bad album, I think it was one of our best albums. But I wanted to do something much, much bigger. I went for a very vibe-y sound on this album. There’s a lot of distortion and sort of harmonic overdrive being used on this album. I didn’t want it to saturate the whole thing down to sound like mud, so I spent a lot of time pre-thinking about how we do things, using a lot of state-of-the-art plug-ins. So I would predominantly concentrate on writing the songs and creating the sounds that I thought were fitting for this sound. It started to become very cohesive and everything I was creating for the album all seemed to fit together. There wasn’t going to be something that would stand out on the album and sound like it came from a completely different place. I wanted it to be everything from heavily energetic to soulful, but it always comes from the same space.

There are a lot of new sounds on the album, a lot of new styles that we would never use before. And we’ve basically taken a break from a lot of things we’ve used in the past to really give it new flavors. I guess a lot of underground electronic music has had an influence on me. There was a lot of sort of punky electronic music that had an influence on me as well. I wanted a very analog feel to this album, even though I’m using a computer, so everything was mixed through an analog device. The one thing that is always going to be there for every single album is the vocals, and it’s always going to be me singing, so we really concentrated on that. We’re not a band with massive amounts of equipment, so we concentrate on what’s important. I got the best microphones I could get for this. A lot of people might not understand why that’s really important, but when you hear the results on the album, that basically says it right there. This was leaps and bounds from what we did before as far as recording quality is concerned, and also the ability to mix things without having problems. We started out from the same point, I had a very strong idea of how I wanted the whole thing to feel and sound, then we concentrated on certain things in the right places.

Ronan Harris and Mark Jackson of VNV Nation look to the past for a better future on "Automatic." Photo by Ben Wolf

This album was also inspired by other pop cultural and historical sources. How would you say this album compares thematically to previous albums?

It was heavily influenced and inspired by the American ’30s. I do graphic design for people under another company name so it’s never tied to the band, but I do a ton of other work that I ended up involving in this project. The spirit of the American ’30s, which is something I’ve read vast amounts on and collected books and paraphernalia on, was a very unique period. Even though it was a period of only ten years, the world changed dramatically technologically and in the spirit of wanting to achieve. It was a period, as well, of economic crisis, which I found ironic as I started to reread a ton of books about two years ago. I really got back into this and have really immersed myself, and I found out that they were dealing with a lot of things that we’re dealing with today. What they had that we don’t have was the amazing sense of vision because they were trying to change the world to make it a better place. There were huge fairs and shows and a sense of naivete about the future. But the spirit of it was to make the world a better place, to make it easier for people, and it was all about individual effort. It wasn’t about being part of some massive organization or something like that, it really was about the individual’s creative output and expression.

As far as design is concerned, the ’30s was an incredible period because everything looks sexy. Any retro-futurist film is always going to borrow a huge amount from that era. A lot of the things I was writing were from a retro-futurist point of view and imagining everything within the look and feel of that era. I wasn’t going to do swing music or anything like that. But there’s a track on the album called “Streamline,” which encapsulates a lot of the philosophy of designers who were saying, “This is how the world could be and this is how we should approach it.” I wanted to express it’s naivete and style-wise the song is based on ’70s electronic futurist music, which was all about how great and automated this sci-fi world will be in 20 years. I wanted to combine the two because electronic music really began its commercial use in the ’70s. Before that it was pretty much test equipment or the toys of the very, very rich. People like the Beach Boys and the Beatles could use it, but they didn’t really know what they were doing with it aside from creating some neat weird noises. But the ’70s produced this ton of great artists who were writing cerebral and trippy music, and they invented ambient music and a ton of other things that are still evolving today. I wanted to capture a bit of that ’70s electronic futurism and marry it to this ’30s American futurism.

How that differs from previous albums is that I view this as an incredibly positive album. I think the last album I did that was roughly in this vein would have been Futureperfect in 2001, and that was about “Here we are 100 years later, what is different between the world at the turn of the 20th century and the turn of the 21st century?”. It was a very dark album, a very bittersweet album, in saying, “Where are all the visions? Where’s our get-up-and-go in wanting to make the future a better place?” This album is really about immersing yourself in that spirit and writing as though that were the vision of today.

You’re also heavily involved in the visual aspects of VNV Nation, which are always a big part of the shows. What have you been doing visually on this tour?

A couple of years ago we started to experiment with LED systems, but using them in a clever way. A lot of people will just build a wall and show an image. What we were doing was splitting the panels up in different places around the stage and using them all independent of one another, and using them both as visual media and as a groovy light show. It’s been honed and maximized, so I think it’s a very energetic stage show that doesn’t dominate the art that’s on stage. Some people have shows where they’re trying to push everything at the same time at the same level, but I want everything to fit in it’s right place. But I think we’ve really taken it up a notch.

For more information, go to www.vnvnation.com.

 

Unknown Hinson was billy before “Squidbillies” was cool

Long before he became the voice of Early Cuyler on Squidbillies, Unknown Hinson was playing hit (at least in his mind) country songs and brandishing an obliviously alpha male persona that is equal parts Johnny Cash and Bela Lugosi. Though there is little that differentiates Early from Unknown (aside from the tentacles and fangs), you’re not likely to see a Squidbilly on stage performing songs such as “I Cleaned Out A Room (In My Trailer For You).” Known for performing numerous shows a year, Hinson emerges from his trailer park coffin to begin a series of one-off performances tonight with a show at the EARL in Atlanta. Before he takes the stage, he talks to Wrestling with Pop Culture about his new stage show, Squidbillies and his mysterious background.

Photo by Robert Leslie Dean

I’ve seen you perform several times over the past few years and your stage show has evolved with each show. You no longer have a manservant and your band lineup has changed from the first time I saw you. What kind of stage show theatrics do you have planned for these shows and what’s your band look like now?

Well, that’s a good question. This time around I’ll be doing only my songs. I don’t play no songs by nobody else. I just play my own mess. It’s all Unknown Hinson songs and it leans more towards the country-western side of me. Not so much rawk because country-western is my first love.

I don’t know about theatrics. I just get up ‘ere and sing and play my guitar and that’s about it. Who knows what might happen? Different thangs happen different times. Ain’t nothin’ I really plan to happen, you know. I just kind of go with it. I use a steel guitar player, a drummer and a bass player, and, of course, me. I don’t play no covers by nobody, I don’t play no rawk and mess like ‘at. My family had a country-western intervention. I used to play some rawk, but I figured out that my ass was gone burn in hell if I kept that up, so I give it up.

Now that you’ve been doing Squidbillies for a few years, do you ever find that people who may not even know who you are or what you look like recognize you by your voice?

Yessir, it happens all the time. It sure does. Squidbillies is a lot of fun. I’ve been doing it since 2005 and a new season is on the air right now on Cartoon Network‘s Adult Swim. Actually, we’re working on season six, to be released soon.

Yeah, people do recognize… It kind of works both ways. Some people who know me will check out Squidbillies and some people who see Squidbillies get curious about me and come to my shows. So one kindly helps the other, you know what I mean?

Yeah. You’ve had a recurring character on the show named Thunder Clap, who is voiced by professional wrestling legend Mick Foley. What has it been like working with him on those episodes?

Well, you know I don’t get to work with the other voice actors. We do it all in separate studios. I’m located out of North Carolina. Sometimes I will fly to Atlanta to do a session for the show, but it’s usually a special record or something like that. Or we might shoot a promotional video for the show and in that case I would fly to Atlanta. But most of the time they direct me from Atlanta while I’m in a studio here in the Charlotte area. Then they put it all together.

Wrestling is obviously a pretty integral part of the north Georgia setting of Squidbillies, as well as in Charlotte and throughout the South. What are your thoughts on professional wrestling and the Squidbillies episodes about it?

I love it. I think it’s great entertainment. I really do. A lot of people who like me seem to like it, and vice versa. It’s funny how it works like ‘at, but I’ve seen that.

Outside of Squidbillies, have you ever been involved in any kind of professional wrestling show in any way?

Naw sir, I never have. That don’t mean I wouldn’t like to someday, but I never have so far.

I understand a collection of music from Squidbillies will be available as a free download soon. And you’re also working on your own album of new material. When will all that be available?

Yep. There’s an album coming out consisting of the various artists that have contributed songs to the show. I think there going to be a couple of my songs on there that I wrote for the show, as well as several other artists. It should be a lot of fun.

I got my own new CD coming out in time for Christmas. It’s not a Christmas CD, but it’s a new CD for me and it’ll be released in time for Christmas. So far, I think it’s my best work, really. I think it’s right up there in the top two if not number one because it’s a lot of songs from the past year and it’s more reflective of me this time, not so much my take on other sitiations. It’s pretty much what’s coming from my heart and my brain.

For your show in Atlanta tonight, you have the Syrens of the South burlesque troupe opening for you. They’ve opened for you previously in Atlanta, but do they do shows with you outside of Atlanta?

Naw, mostly the only time we work together is when we’re in Atlanta together. They a nice bunch of ladies. I look forward to seeing them again. It’s a lot of fun, but that’s the only time we’ve worked together is when I play Atlanta.

How do you like having them open for you?

I thank it works. It goes right along with what I do. Plus, ain’t nothing wrong with having some purdy girls back in the dressing room, know what I mean?

Right. Do you have any favorites in the troupe?

Naw, I like ’em all. I sure do. They’re a bunch of nice ladies.

I interviewed you a few years ago and asked this question, and I’m sure you’ve answered numerous other times. But I think it bears repeating. How did you get the name Unknown Hinson?

Well, you know, my mama and daddy did not know one another when they conceived me. They was both drunk when they had the sexuals and they never even bothered to find out each other’s name. When my mama discovered that she was with child afterwards, and it was time for me to be born, the doctor was filling out my birth certificate and said, “Miss Hinson, what do you want to name the boy?” Hinson was her maiden name, she weren’t married. She said, “I want to name him after his daddy.” So, you know “Mother: Miss Hinson, Father: Unknown,” ’cause she dun’t know his name, ’cause they’s drunk. That’s how I got it.

Photo by Margo Baker

I know you don’t have much to go on, but have you ever tried to track down your father?

No sir. The only thing she knowd ’bout him was he was not much count. He was a mean, kinda rowdy feller and they just had that one experience together and she didn’t never hear from him no more. So I don’t know if he’s even alive or nothin’. Mama dissappeared when I was ten year old and I run away from home and joined up with a carnival. The fella who run the carnival pretty much raised me till I was about 22 year old. Then I got set up and framed for his murder and they tried and convicted me and sent me to prison for 30 years. I went in ’63 and got out in ’93 and I’ve been playing my chart toppers and writin’ songs and touring as much as I can. Trying to make up for lost time, you know. But I ain’t bitter about spending that time in the joint because, hell, it give me time to write a lot of songs and practice my guitar and my sangin’. Plus I learned how to read and write in ‘ere.

Thangs worked out good. The only thing is I can’t cash no checks because you can’t cash no checks made out to Unknown. I ain’t never had no driver’s license, which is a big, major qualification to be in my band. You got to have a driver’s license and a pay-at-the-pump gas card ’cause I can’t get none. With my name, I can’t get pretty much nothin’. On paper, that is.

What ever happened to Gustav, the manservant that helped you out with such things?

Well, that’s a very unfortunate story. He was a very good friend of mine and he was unfortunately murdered at the first of this year, I’m sorry to say. And that’s really hard for me to say. But he’s no longer with us. He was a fine feller and he was a big help to me. He worked with me for about seven years.

Do you think you’ll ever hire a new manservant?

Naw. Couldn’t nobody ever replace him. Not at all. I never have even considered it. He was my chauffeur and my butler. My manservant, you know. He was a wonderful photographer as well as a fine person and an actor and entertainer. But his life was taken early this year and it was very bad. I sure do miss him and all his friends miss him terribly.

For more information, go to www.unknownhinson.com.

 

 

 

Voltaire, goth’s pop cultural ambassador, is always ready for Halloween

By Jonathan Williams

While he is perhaps best known for the darkly satirical gypsy folk music he’s been creating for more than a decade, Voltaire‘s creepily creative talents have seeped over into other areas of pop culture including animation, comic books and collectible toys. With an insider’s view of the goth and geek scene, Voltaire has published books such as Paint It Black: A Guide to Gothic Homemaking and written songs poking fun at Star Trek, making him an annual favorite at pop culture conventions such as Dragon*Con. Following the release of his latest album Riding a Black Unicorn Down the Side of an Erupting Volcano While Drinking from a Chalice Filled with the Laughter of Small Children, which features contributions from David J of Bauhaus, Brian Viglione of the Dresden Dolls, Melora Creager of Rasputina and others, Voltaire set out on the Black Unicorn Cabaret Tour. As he prepares for a performance at Anne Rice‘s The Theatre of the Vampires Ball in New Orleans on Oct. 28, he talks to Wrestling with Pop Culture about his music, Halloween and more.

Your latest album features collaborations with some of your biggest musical influences, as well as some of your best known peers. How did this all-star lineup of goth luminaries come about?

Photo by Scott Irvine

Most of the people on the album are musicians I know personally or have worked with before. The drums are played by Brian Viglione of the Dresden Dolls. He played the drums on my last album and I asked him if he’d return for this one. The cellos are played by Melora Creager of Rasputina. She played cellos on the soundtrack of one of my short films a year or so ago and we recently went on tour together. And David J of Bauhaus plays bass. We’ve run into each other a few times on the road and have played a show or two together. So it really was a case of calling on people I know, whose work I admire and asking them if they’d join me on this record. Don’t be fooled though, just because I know them all doesn’t mean I don’t fanboy a little at the mere thought of it.

As your musical career has progressed, you’ve simultaneously crossed over into practically every other realm of pop culture, from film and comics to video games and children’s songs. Are there any areas you have yet to explore that you’d be interested in delving into? Wrestling, perhaps?

Wrestling is definitely not in the stars for me. I’m a lover, not a fighter, as they say, which is really just a fancy way of saying, “I don’t fight well.” But I did recently write a feature film script which I hope to get made and believe it or not, I’m getting more and more excited about the thought of acting. I’d like to spend more time in front of the camera, especially in horror films. So I think acting and making features is my next move. I’ve also got a novel or two in me, I think. I just don’t know where I will find the time to do all of this stuff.

As steampunk has grown in popularity, your music has gone from being described as goth to steampunk (without much, if any, stylistic change on your part). How do you feel about these different labels being applied to what you do? Conversely, how much crossover do you see amongst your fans between various subcultures?

Well, truth be told, I’m still referred to as “goth,” but I have never made goth music. Seriously, I sound nothing like the Cure or Bauhaus or whatever people call goth these days. Musically, what I do is probably closer to folk. It’s always acoustic, sometimes funny, sometimes poignant, usually about dark subjects. I personally relate to being goth because that’s the scene I grew up in and I’ve always loved the macabre. But I’m not a musician who makes goth music, I’m a goth who makes music. The music in my songs has drawn from folk, country, flamenco, gypsy, classical, rockabilly, jazz, ska and even reggae. It’s the message and snarky viewpoints expressed that define it as “dark.” Over the years I’ve been called goth, darkwave, anti-folk, gypsy punk, dark cabaret and steampunk. It seems like every couple of years a new term comes up and I get lumped in, probably because no one, including myself, has come up with a neat categorization for what I do. At the end of the day, I don’t really care what people call my music as long as they are enjoying it.

Photo by Jimmy Lin

You’ve also become an unofficial spokesperson for these subcultures, having appeared on Fox News, MTV and elsewhere over the years. As someone who so adequately represents some of these spookier elements, what does someone like Voltaire do for Halloween (especially when Halloween falls just after your tour)?

Well, usually I’m performing somewhere. October is hands down my busiest month of the year. Sometimes I feel like the mayor of Halloweentown, which I like quite a bit! Wherever I am, I’m not generally wearing a costume though. There’s no need. It’s the one day of the year I fit right in wherever I go.

What are some of your current projects (musical or otherwise) that your fans can look forward to and where can people find them?

Well as you know, I have a new record out and I’m touring to support it. I also try to make a short film a year. The most recent one is called Odokuro. It’s narrated by Gary Numan. It has just started touring the film festival circuit. I also have some new vinyl toys of my character Deady, some of which came out this summer and some more that are coming out this winter.

For more information, go to www.voltaire.net.

Gwar front man goes from monster rocker to monster writer with “Whargoul”

When most people think of Gwar, they think of horrendous beings from another planet assaulting the senses with an aural and visual onslaught that includes disemboweling political figures and spraying audiences with bodily fluids while performing pummeling metal songs. Though he has explored other creative outlets such as his participation in the still-in-development Blood Vomits animated series and his recent “Spoken Turd” performance at Gwar’s Crack-A-Thon, one might expect front man Oderus Urungus’ talents to revolve around world domination and exaggeratedly phallic aggression.  From wrestling matches to sword fights, Urungus and his crew of creatures have had epic battles with some of the ghastliest ghouls in the universe. But Urungus’ alter ego Dave Brockie can now call himself a novelist with the recent release of his debut book Whargoul.

Though Whargoul has been alive at www.oderus.com for years, it was only recently that it’s physical form was realized with the publication of the Whargoul paperback. The story of a demon-like creature who is reborn generation after generation with the sole purpose of creating carnage, Whargoul is just the kind of story you might expect from a guy who performs while showing off his enormous alien penis. As the band prepares for this weekend’s Gwar-B-Q festival in Richmond, Va.  and the subsequent Return of the World Maggot tour, Dave Brockie talks to Wrestling with Pop Culture about his book and more.

I interviewed you a few years ago and your knowledge of weapons and military history came up. You clearly applied that knowledge throughout Whargoul, so it was interesting to see some of the things we talked about before being put to good use.

I’m a big fan of history and the more warlike episodes of human history are usually the most interesting. Art and war were probably my two biggest areas of study. It’s not that I’m a supporter of war by any means, but it is a fascination we have with the entire aspect of warfare. It’s so contradictory and so undeniably damaging to the planet, the human psyche and the physicality of being human. It’s such an unrelentingly negative thing that it’s just unbelievable that we spend so much time, money, effort and so many lives basically pursuing a system that still relies on the laws of the jungle.

I’ve been fascinated with it my whole life, probably mostly because both of my parents were World War II veterans. My dad’s from Scotland and my mom’s from London and they both were very young during World War II. But when you were living in England during World War II and you were the only thing between the Nazis taking over Europe and having a good shot at taking out Russia, they saw a lot of fucked up shit and it definitely affected their lives. As their child, it affected mine as well. So I was always fascinated with why my parents were sucked into this hideous thing. Over the years it was something I was always studying. So when I came up with the idea to write the book, it was a really good opportunity for me to purge out a lot of this useless knowledge that I had in a creative way.

Yeah. That was obviously a lot of the inspiration for the story itself, but how did you come up with the character and concept of the Whargoul creature?

I’ve always been a fan of fantasy stuff like Conan, the Elric and, of course, The Lord of the Rings. As I got older, I just devoured all that stuff – Roger Zelazny, Michael Moorcock, the more classic horror of H.P. Lovecraft. But one of the authors that really got me settled on this character was a guy named Barry Sadler who wrote a series of books about a character named Casca, who was the eternal warrior. He’s basically the Roman soldier that stabbed Christ with the spear to see if he was dead or not. So the books are about this guy, who is cursed forever and can never be killed. He has to fight in wars forever and the books are him appearing in war after war throughout eternity.

I was inspired by that kind of character and just mushed together a lot of different elements with the eternal warrior thing from the Casca books, as well as Michael Moorcock’s Eternal Champion, or even a movie like the Highlander. I wanted to have the completely sick eldritch horror of H.P. Lovecraft, but I wanted to have the goofy irreverence of something like Evil Dead 2. I guess Gwar was a big influence as well, especially the way the Oderus character had evolved over the years. I just wanted to take elements of all these different things I was interested in and come up with a cool character I could write about.

He came to be in our song off of Ragnarök. Whargoul’s first existence was in that song and I started writing the book shortly after that. I really didn’t know what the character was going to be or how he was going to turn out. I knew I didn’t want him to be a one-dimensionally evil creature. I wanted him to have a humanity to him and make that the conflict in the book. Once I had established those ground rules, the character kind of suggested itself. I had the whole chronology of his travels in my mind and it was just up to me how I wanted to present it.

The Whargoul character takes on many different forms throughout the book. Were there particular incarnations of the character that you enjoyed writing more than others?

I thought I would really like his time fighting with the German army the most, just because there’s a classic villain, they had the coolest tanks, the most wicked uniforms and the SS was probably the most evil, fucked-up military organization in history. I thought I would really enjoy that, and I did, but I actually ended up digging other aspects of his personality even more. I liked the way that his contemporary physicality was a big black dude living in a ruined urban kind of landscape because it had a real connection to what’s actually going on.

Most of this book was written pre-9/11, and it reflects that. It certainly is dated, but people seem to have forgiven that. I finished the book right before 2001 and it’s really funny that the apocalyptic act that kind of climaxes the book occurs in New York City. In a weird way, it kind of presaged a lot of this century’s carnage and I wanted the Whargoul to be like the first major new monster of the 21st century. Boy, the 21st century sure started with a bigger bang than anybody would have predicted in their most fucked-up nightmares.

I also really enjoyed the challenge of writing him when he was a female. There’s one scene where after he’s tortured to death by the Mossad agents and blown up along with his hooker girlfriend, he has to basically use her body to repair himself. He comes out this weird half man/half woman wolf-like creature. So that was different and really fun, especially when he became a member of the Iraqi army. Here you have this Whargoul thing that looks like a woman, but is trying to dress up like a man so he can be in the army, and he’s having sex with his subordinates and going to meet Saddam. As I writer it was so much fun to take that character to places like Saddam’s secret bunker or the weird tomb he went to go smoke hash in.

Each Gwar tour is like a new chapter in the Gwar mythos. What’s the latest chapter with this tour?

Oderus Urungus

It is the Return of the World Maggot Tour. If we’re going to call it the Return of the World Maggot, I really hope he actually does. I’m sure he will. As many of our fans will remember, the World Maggot was the focus of our Skulhedface movie, where we were trying to wake the World Maggot up with a glut of souls and he left the planet without taking Gwar with him. I guess there were two World Maggots and we’re going to see the hideous creature onstage every night and will be feeding as many hot chicks to it as possible. And we’ll have our usual collection of cybernetic assholes, violent large rubber monsters and, of course, a few celebrity victims to whom Gwar dispenses the rough justice that we are known and loved for. I’m pretty sure Casey Anthony will be there, not so sure if her dead kid will be. If something can be done in poor taste, but at the same time equally hilarious, I like to think that we’ll be the first to do it.

Do you think the Whargoul is a character Gwar might ever encounter in song or on stage?

I would love to do a Whargoul character and have him be in a Gwar song or do battle with him. The only thing that’s ever held me back from doing it is we’re traditionally terrible with pyrotechnics and it would be very important for the Whargoul to have a gun that fucking just blasts full auto a lot. We haven’t really incorporated him into the Gwar live universe yet, and certainly Whargoul hasn’t met Gwar yet, but in the crazy mythos that we’ve created, yeah, it’s very conceivable that such a thing could happen. And it could be really fucking super cool.

For more information, go to www.gwar.net or www.eraserheadpress.

Skid Row’s Rachel Bolan talks rocking, racing and wrestling

Though the band’s most commercially successful years were in the late ’80s and early ’90s, when Sebastian Bach fronted the band on such hits as “18 and Life,” “Youth Gone Wild” and “Monkey Business,” Skid Row has continued to rock metal crowds across the country. Having toured with the likes of KISS, Mötley Crüe and Poison, the Bach-less Skid Row has taken a more hard rock approach since the addition of singer Johnny Solinger in 1999. As the main songwriter for Skid Row, bassist Rachel Bolan (alongside longtime guitarists Dave “The Snake” Sabo and Scotti Hill) has not only kept Skid Row from ending up on a metaphorical skid row, but he has also produced bands such as the now-defunct Luchagors (led by Amy “Lita” Dumas) and taken to the track for various kinds of auto racing. As the band prepares for some big upcoming shows such as October’s KISS Kruise and a homecoming of sorts for Atlanta-based Bolan and former Rockets to Ruin drummer Rob Hammersmith at Wild Bill’s, Bolan takes a moment to talk to Wrestling with Pop Culture.

Photo by Edel Puntonet

You were scheduled to perform at Wild Bill’s in June, but it was rescheduled to Sept. 16. Why was that show rescheduled?

We were doing a show and had just finished playing and the lights went down. As we were walking offstage, our guitar player Scotti was cutting behind the drum riser and I guess one of the local crew guys had put a small load case there. It was pitch black and he just fell over it and went to brace himself with his hand and nailed it on the corner of the drum riser and broke one of the metacarpals in his hand. So it was either play without him or reschedule, which we opted to do.

You’re not touring behind a new album, but will you be playing any new songs at this show?
We’re not playing new ones yet. We have been writing because we plan to get something out in 2012. We won’t be playing anything new at Wild Bill’s, but we have been pulling out some obscure songs that we haven’t played in a few years. So we’re looking forward to that.
Outside of performing in Skid Row, you’ve also done a bit of production work for other bands in the past few years. How did you get into that and what are some of the more recent projects you’ve worked on?
I’ve always loved producing. It’s a lot less stressful than actually being in the band and doing your own stuff because you still get to create and as long as you gain the trust of the artist or band you’re working with, it’s something I always really like to do. I did the Luchagors a while back, then Rockets to Ruin. I also produced the band Bigfoot, which will be playing with us at Wild Bill’s, and another local band called Ledfoot Messiah. Sometimes people just call me from the creative side just to get new ideas, so it’s always a lot of fun to do it.
When you’re not working on music, you’re also involved in auto racing. What type of racing do you do?

I race stock cars, Legends cars and my go-karts any chance I get. We’re gone on the weekends, so sometimes it’s difficult. But every now and then a friend of mine will call and want to get his car in a race and he might not be able to do it so I’ll go jump in the car and race it. That’s usually up in Charlotte. It’s something that I really love doing. I’m at the amateur level because I obviously can’t put in all the time that is needed. But I have so much fun and work out so much aggression when I’m out there.

I like racing my high performance go-kart on the clay oval, usually up in Commerce, Ga. I’ve raced in Minnesota quite a few times. A friend of mine and I built the kart and it goes about 60 miles an hour.

Photo by Fran Strine

 

I know you and your drummer live in Atlanta. Why did you originally relocate to Atlanta?

Snake lives out in L.A., Scotti’s in Florida and our singer Johnny is in Texas. I grew up in Jersey and lived there my whole life, so I wanted to move south. I was originally aiming at Charlotte, but ended up in Atlanta and it’s a cool town. I made a lot of friends pretty quickly, got to work with a lot of good bands, bought a house and stayed.
Your past few shows in the Atlanta area have been at Wild Bill’s in Duluth. Why has that become your go-to venue for Atlanta?
First of all, it draws a bigger crowd. Second of all, the people that live outside the Perimeter usually won’t come into the Perimeter while the people that live inside the Perimeter will go outside of it. It’s just such a cool venue and it still is predominantly a country venue with rock shows during the summer. There are so many rock fans out in that area and the surrounding areas. We know there are rock fans in the city, but who would have guessed there were so many in the surrounding areas? It just makes it easier for everyone and the fact that it’s such a great stage and venue, we really enjoy playing there.
Hard rock and professional wrestling seem to often go hand-in-hand. Aside from working with Lita’s band the Luchagors, has Skid Row ever been directly involved with wrestling?

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We haven’t, but Snake is a huge wrestling fan. We have a lot of friends who are in or used to be in professional wrestling. Actually, a buddy of mine is Marcus Laurinaitis and he just moved up this way and we get together whenever we can and grab a few beers. He was Fury years ago, but he has since retired. His brother is Road Warrior Animal.

Right. And his other brother, John Laurinaitis, has been on WWE TV a lot lately.
Yeah. I’ve met them all and they’re great guys. But Snake has been into wrestling since he was a little kid. He has such a vast knowledge of the sport, it’s crazy. He knows everything about American professional wrestling. We’ve had a lot of wrestlers come out to our shows. Back in the day, “Diamond” Dallas Page, the Nasty Boys, all those guys used to come out. And whenever we toured Japan we seemed to run into a bunch of guys over there. And they still do come out to shows.
Skid Row with Bigfoot and Dangerous New Machine. $7.50-$100. 9:15 p.m. Sept. 16. Wild Bill’s, Duluth, Ga. 678-473-1000, www.skidrow.com, www.wildbillsatlanta.com.

DJ Nemesis keeps the Dragon Dance going all night at Dragon*Con

By Jonathan Williams

Dragon*Con offers something for just about anyone who has even a passing interest in pop culture. But after the vendors close up shop and the celebrities and other icons have stopped signing autographs for the day, that’s when Dragon*Con’s party atmosphere begins. For the past three years, DJ Nemesis has helped con-goers unwind with his late night Dragon Dance parties. A longtime fixture on the Atlanta scene (first as a drummer, then as a DJ), Nemesis now spins his goth, industrial and metal tunes in Boston, Atlanta and beyond. Returning for his fourth Dragon Dance following performances by Abney Park and Freezepop Saturday night/Sunday morning, Nemesis will also be part of the State of the Goth Scene panel Saturday evening and spinning at CON*tourage‘s heavy metal party tonight.

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When you’re planning your set list for the Dragon Dance, do you try to accommodate the sci-fi, fantasy and horror fans or is it pretty much the same as what you’d do at any other club night?

It’s a lot different than being in a club because by the time everybody gets in the room they just want to rock. At a club you kind of start out slow and ease into things. You don’t start out with super fast songs at the beginning of the night because it just blows everyone out. But it’s the opposite at Dragon*Con – you start at prime time and work your way down. At about 6 in the morning I’ll start slowing things down.

Aside from the song selection, how else do you make the Dragon Dance more fitting with the Dragon*Con theme?

I’ve partnered with JSin from Secret Room and he knows tons of performers and Go-Go dancers and stuff like that. So he’s gathered up a bunch of people that will be at the Con from Los Angeles, New York, Tampa, Orlando, Atlanta and they’ll be rotating out all night with go go dances on the stage and a couple of other performances. For the third year in a row, Gia Nova will be joining us.

Yeah, she just won the Exotic Dancer National Championship.

The big credit I think is cool is that she was in Rob Zombie‘s Halloween II and had a really huge part in that. I watched that scene about seven times just to pick out everybody I knew. I was recognizing so many people in that I was like, “Oh my God, I wish I was there.”

Photo by Shadow Darkwell

 

 

Who else will be dancing and performing at the Dragon Dance?

Defenz Mechanizm and Lyn Sky, they’re both from Orlando. Anise Dom Fatale from Hollywood, who was onstage last year wearing a Tron outfit. Alisa Kiss from Atlanta and, like, 20 other people.

What other shows do you have coming up after Dragon*Con?

On September 17, I’m going to be doing Saturday Stripped at the Shelter again. And on October 14 I’m doing the Ritual Vampire Ball at the Shelter. I have my first West Coast gig in December at Das Bunker in Los Angeles. And I’m doing a big Halloween event in Boston called Bloodfeast on October 29.

State of the Goth Scene. 5:30 p.m. Sept. 3. Hyatt Regency Atlanta, Montreal/Vancouver, 265 Peachtree St. NE, Atlanta, Ga.

Dragon Dance. $30-$120. 3 a.m. Sept. 4. Atlanta Marriott Marquis, Atrium Ballroom, 265 Peachtree Center Ave., Atlanta, Ga. 770-909-0115, www.dragoncon.org.